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Thanks Ree. I agree but it's not my roof and my brother doesn't want to strip back to 3 rafters after I suggested the same to him.

Great spot, I hadn't realised that, but from that picture I have to agree. I have no idea what tile it is so if anyone else knows please let me know.

My brother tells me that they fell down like this about 4 years ago but they were pushed back up last time and fixed somehow with no nails which has now failed.

I'm sure the battens have been cut short because the same thing happened on the other side and when that was repaired by someone else my brother confirmed my suspicions of what had been done wrong that side.

On my brothers roof the end column of tiles at the verge have all slipped down, so the tiles, tile and half, cement verge and undercloak have all slipped down and away from the next tiles. So looks like last time the roof was done the roofer has cut the battens too short and so there is nothing...

In the end I plumped for an sgs 2.5 tonne low profile trolley jack. Arrived today.

Good.points RonOz. Sometimes better to pay a bit more. My other second hand jack can drop too quick if your not careful with it.

Thomp, that's good to hear.

I was looking at a halfords low profile 3 tonne at 160 quid but then saw this sgs one cheaper.

Second one.

I was looking to buy a new trolley jack and have seen an SGS SGS 2.5 Ton Heavy Duty Low Profile Trolley Jack STJ2.5HDLP but have never heard of this make. Does anyone know if these SGS ones are any good? Price is £125 in a sale. Victor

Not sure of the current rating of the crimps I've got though

I do have a ratchet crimper fo the yellow ring crimps and a box of crimps.

Yes my old belling was a much better terminal box. This one you have to tighten up really tight or the wires keep pulling out.

Thanks both of you. Think I will go either side of screw with copper cores so that it clamps down better using existing cable if that's acceptable.

Just bought a new belling oven. It's a 12kw oven. We have a 6mm T+E cable feeding the old oven but the new oven says to use flexible cable. What cable would you use and what's the best way to connect to the terminal, ring crimp or bend wire around screw.

The mortgage people have not made any mention of the roof work needing to be done as part of the offer. My nephew tells me he doesn't want to argue with seller about it and so will just get it done himself when he has the cash.