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Just out of curiosity, which reg would you quote to warrant an unsatisfactory rating for the ELCB? I assume you would code this as a C2.

As the circuit was working before they disturbed my guess would be they missed something. An MCB has a number on the front which is the maximum breaking capacity In amps. In domestic this is normally 6000. Up to 6000 amps should trip the breaker leaving it functional. A current greater than...

I don't know why you have pulled me into this thread. In another thread, Eric posted that he would omit RCD protection after a Risk Assessment. All I said in reply was that would be inappropriate. You queried whether I meant risk assessments are never appropriate in a domestic...

I was referring specifically to Eric posting that a Risk Assessment in a domestic setting led him to believe no RCD was required. I pointed out that the regs did not allow for a Risk Assessment in a dwelling. We all assess risks every day, whether or not it is formal.

I have not said I don't carry out risk assessments in a domestic environment. I just said the Risk Assessment to omit RCD protection does not apply in this posters case. I would agree that we carry out risk assessments all the time.

My post is specific to the thread and Eric has raised the option of avoiding RCD after a Risk Assessment. The regs refer to the Risk Assessment to override an RCD for sockets but especially excludes dwellings.The Edited

in theory I should have signed the design section, although I didn't, but I have the qualifications to design the installation and he was fully aware of that, he was my apprentice years ago. Read more...

A risk assessment is not applicable in a domestic installation.

However John, the brown sleeve on the blue conductor indicates this is functionally aLine conductor. Just look at 514.3.1(i) followed through to 514.4.4. FYI, if not present, I'm with RF and code it C3.

This is nothing to do with the NICEIC. It is down to the SOP for the 3 inspectors and each is valid. You are the customer and you decide who you want to work with. The first step is the initial inspection. If this produces a 'satisfctory' EICR, then happy days. If it is 'unsatisfactory'...

Cheers for the update. This seems to be a developer solving a problem which doesn't exist. I've fitted a few of these when it's not been practical to install cabling. Never been asked to fit them on new build. Hope the buyers don't have any duff products and get hit with the cost of...

Why would any developer go totally wireless for 200+ houses? Where is this and who is the developer?

I just tried looking for “DIY electrics is not allowed in Ireland” in Google. This returned an RTE article, which looks to support Winston, referring to 'Restricted Works'

This pdf has the details held in BS5499-4:2013. No idea why road signs, airplane regs, French or German signs are quoted. http://www.trafalgarfire.co.uk/_webedit/uploaded-files/All%20Files/FIA%20Guidance%20Notes/Guidance%20Fire%20Safety%20Signs%20and%20Notices.pdf

This is wrong. NAPIT have printed their advice in 'EICR Codebreakers'. I'm registered with the NICEIC but have a copy (I have no problem referring to a guide when I'm doing my job, but this this does not a replacement for applying experience). Section 4.4 has the following: 'CU in a...

I don’t see how this would lead to negative publicity. I was not expecting you to name the hotel. The only bad publicity would be a negative tripadvisor review and I don’t give bad reviews. I am being mean, querying this. It is entirely believable that the entertainment crew would commission...

I find this thread really stretches credibility. I have worked alongside lots of guys who never went through the college courses. Most, are excellent sparks. However, not many would think of stepping up as you did. I have the certs, experience and insurance to work with confidence in the UK...

In your first couple of posts, it read like you were working on this installation as an electrician and found an apparently dangerous situation. Then you post that it's not that dangerous, as only you had felt a shock. Then this just gets bizarre, as you post that you were actually a hotel...

It may seem pedantic, but we go by the design date, not installation date, so if you alter the design, then the alteration has to conform with current regulations, so RCD protected, but the original design does not need altering. However missing RCD protection would still be listed with an EICR...

As nobody seems to be interested in the details you posted, these are my thoughts. The shower is nont compliant. The calculation is simply Ib <= Ib <= Iz. Ib = load, In = MCB rating and Iz = tabulated cable current carrying capacity. The shower is rated at 9600W @ 240V which equates to 40A...