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with modern cars (yours) stick a code reader on it. You'll be surprised, every man and his dog has one of these gizmos so ask around! You can buy basic ones for under £20 or better ones ( I paid £250 for mine) for more money. Once you have the code/s if any, they wont tell you whats wrong but...

my 19yr old daughter lives away from home now and she told me she and her BF were going out for a meal. I got a text later saying " hey dad, we're having a steak and we've got to cook it ourselves on a rock thing" haha so now I know what these are:)

also make sure you know what the base of the stain is for sure. Wash off water stain with water. Wash off spirit stain with white spirit. Spirit stain in the sheds is actually white spirit based so should be called oil stains. In the trade they alcohol based in which case you would wash off with...

reasons for stain build up is 1) stain drying before you can wipe it all off 2) some bits of the wood is more porous than others ie rough. Issue 1 is caused mostly by not wiping stain off fast enough (or not wiping at all) or using a stain that evaporates very quickly ie spirit stain. The...

yes I am and you're wrong about the last bit....

ah right sorry just seen your last post, its not £140ph generally....

so it is £140 ph generally then.... an employee who works for a gas fitting company doing work in domestic homes should be charged out at £140.00ph by his boss? looks like Charlie Mullins is a bit on the cheap side at £120.00ph;) My £70.00 per hour is starting to look good value now:) I...

I can work out the economics on that as well as anyone! So just to be clear (as Aquas post was slightly ambiguous ie was the £140hr for only hob fitting or was it for work generally) £140 is a reasonable charge per hr for undertaking work in a domestic customers home?

that sounds like a subject for another thread ;) are there really many heating firms charging their guys out at that generally????? or are you saying £140hr etc is a reasonable hourly rate for fitting hobs? the latter surely?? thks for the info re. retailers fitters btw....

ah are you talking about the ends of the shelf cos if so Foxhole has it.....

thanks aqua :) the bossman is ringing me back tomorrow, he's already said the valve should have been fitted and that he will book that in. If he tells me his standard rate for this job is £139.00 I'll take it on the chin and move on. Its his perogative to charge what he wants, its up to me to...

so would I if I were you :)

what make and type of stain are you using? if from the sheds, its likely water based. Is it building up on the face of the edge of the shelf or the top corner of the edge? Also what are the shelves made of?

at the risk of boring people to tears ;) - theres 2 sides to this re. cost. 1) what should it cost 2) whats the market rate because the two are not neccessarily the same. If I was a gas guy, I would NOT want to plumb in a hob for £60 - £90 etc as I would want well compensating for accepting a...

well thats what I would do as well. I guess I am sore at being charged 2 hrs (ie so much) for such a little job (whether that be due to a high hourly rate or a long work time) . I Theres expensive and theres taking advantage and this is erring on the latter. I'm sure if I posted a pic up...

thanks everyone for all the input. My wife will ring them this afternoon to say we think the bill is a bit dear and why is that, also she will query why there is not an isolation valve fitted. I suspect the best we can hope for is to get a valve fitted FOC. I can't deal with these people, I'm a...

well, I have a clear horizontal run of 15mm copper pipe 100mm long between the joints staring me in the face at the rear inside of the cabinet so presume he could have fitted it there but he could have refigured it anyway giving plenty of room for one IMO

what have I deleted?? havnt deleted anything! at least not knowingly.. below a quote, maybe the last sentence is a get out.... taken from a HSE Doc - (6) No person shall install a gas appliance without there being at the inlet to it means of shutting off the supply of gas to the appliance...

havnt answered the question as I'm unsure how to deal with at the moment. Yes I think its a rip off (more to do with time taken than hourly rate) , maybe I'll tell them that, maybe not. I might just leave it and pay up and forget the valve if someone can prove its not a regulatory requirement...

yes I did ring gas safe. I posted on here first and my missus said why dont you ring them which I then did. I want to make double sure I'm not misunderstanding anything before contacting the heating people