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Dont know exactly, 100 years or something. Why? The factory building was built approx 1870 and converted to apartments around 2007. It's grade II listed, three floors in total. There is a central courtyard and each apartment comes off this around the outside. The electricity meters are all...

Yes it could be done. But as I keep saying this flat is leasehold - we would probably need permission to run new cables because that would involve lifting the floorboards which counts as structural interference. I'm not saying this is impossible, it's whether it's economic given the minimal...

Having a battle like that is way out of scope and would take years probably. I've had a look around and there is one model - Dimplex QMRF range - which can be connected via a single electricity feed. The charge up timing is controlled via settings on the device. It appears that these units are...

Because storage heaters don't count as storage heaters (for the EPC) if they aren't on a separate off peak switched consumer unit controlled directly by the meter. Just switching to an off peak tariff adjusts billing yes, but does not give you an off peak activated circuit in the property. I...

The prices are crazy. How is a portable electric panel or oil filled heater around £30-50 yet make it wall mounted and the price jumps to £300 each.

Unlikely to be possible. 1. Building is grade II listed. 2. I doubt the freeholder would allow a heat pump to be installed on top of the pitched roof, how would you even get it up there and maintain it? The problem with this is that EPC doesn't recognise it. The existing heater installation...

You're probably right, but what she has installed does a better job than the original heaters according to her. When I've been there, it's felt warm enough. There's just no timer/stat control with them, hence the reason for my original question on what to do. We can't leave these as the only...

Here's what chatgpt has to say on the topic: 1. What is required to install a full HHR storage heater system: * Establish a dual rate tariff via energy supplier. * Configure the smart meter to provide an off peak switched supply or 2nd set of tails depending on meter type. * Install new tails...

I have been researching this since I posted the thread and I don't believe it's fully correct. You are right that smart meters these days can record multiple peak/off peak periods so don't technically need dedicated off peak circuitry. However, it still appears to be the case that for off peak...

Based on the large number of EPC for the building, no-one has storage heaters, all have panel heaters limited controls scoring poorly on EPC. Not sure what else there is to say. Whilst I appreciate that you are random strangers on the internet, you're also collectively electricians and heating...

Between 2005-2009 sometime. I don't know what requirements were in place at the time, or why they didn't install very good heating or why they didn't install gas, that's all way out of my control. I personally think what was done was inadequate but we have to work with what we have. She has...

@ericmark it's just a normal 2 bed apartment in Birmingham city centre. It's a converted 1800s industrial building with about 50 apartments in it. My partner works during the day and when she's not at mine is there in the evening and at weekends. Pretty standard residential use. She installed...

Basic electric panel/convectors. Most of the EPCs give a poor or very poor rating against the heating and cite lack of programmer /controls. I don't know the make, next time I go I will have a look, but unless it's hidden on the back there is nothing but a small blue LED on lamp on the front...

Just to squash the storage heater idea for good - it's unlikely we could even install it in this apartment. There is no existing separate off peak wiring or consumer unit - and crucially the existing electricity meters are housed in a separate room at the other end of the block. It's unlikely...

I will contact some of the main electric radiator sellers and ask them which ones are suitable. Any idea on which hot water timer?

Ok so if I may repeat my previous question re the hot water. It's fed by two immersion heating elements on separate fused spurs. What type of timer would I need for this? How do I find out which ones are on the lists?

Ah ok thanks. It's a modern mains pressure factory insulated thing, fed as I said by two separate elements each on their own fused spur. So a timer/programmer here is not worth anything on the EPC? The hot water system was rated 'very poor' on the last EPC carried out, I was led to believe...

Sorry, what are accusing me of here?

The two immersion elements are on the same circuit, just fed by two separate fused spurs right next to each other on the wall. I'm aware the temperature is set on the elements themselves so that's fine, it's just timer/programmer functionality we need. The reason this is all so confusing to me...

I was looking to see if there was a system where it could all be integrated, the electric heaters and the immersion heater. Otherwise we potentially end up with multiple stats/programmers, several apps on the phone for different bits of the system. Is there an immersion heater timer/programmer...