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    Earth Bonding

    And you might reconsider when, under a fault condition that, for whatever reason, doesn't clear, the installation metalwork and any metalwork bonded to it, rises to 230V. This would take the oil-tank, which is outside, to 230V. The man coming to fill said oil-tank, standing on true earth...
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    Power to loft - Adding spur to MCB / fuse that carries ring

    Take no notice of some of the replies - yes, what you are suggesting is perfectly acceptable - and no, it's not bad practice. As long as you have a 13A FCU installed, you can also add as many sockets as you like. (after the FCU, of course) :)
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    Earth Bonding

    I really don't see why the confusion arises between earthing and bonding - it really is quite simple. You 'earth' a part of an electrical installation that could become live under fault conditions - this includes casings, steel conduit, basket, metal accesories.......all part of an...
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    outdoor circuit extending from indoor circuit

    Loading of the ring is a seperate (design) issue - if the OPs spur happened to be connected to the mid-point of the 'ring', it would be even less of an issue. What spark123 is referring to, though, is the need to protect a 2.5mm spur cable from overload - which is why the regs state that an...
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    outdoor circuit extending from indoor circuit

    But the OP is wiring it in 4mm - do we still think that's the case?
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    outdoor circuit extending from indoor circuit

    Why does he have to fuse it down?
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    Quote seems excessive - opinions?

    Get some other quotes. If it's as straight forward as your making out, I'd do it for just over half that price - and that would include a new CU. :).........I just live too far away.
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    Clarification of regs -adding socket to ring. What required?

    John, Did you not read my post above - with the quote from the IET?? It would be unrealistic and unreasonable for them to insist that a DIYer buys 100s of pounds worth of test equipment.....you're right. BUT......They're not telling them that they have to buy the gear, are they...
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    Clarification of regs -adding socket to ring. What required?

    So if I extend my downstairs RFC to the upstairs of my house and feed an additional 8 double socket outlets..............not notifiable, by the way.............Yeah, you're right....simple!! Just for you, Stoday:..... Really?? Do you know what tests would be required if you were to...
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    Clarification of regs -adding socket to ring. What required?

    No, I'm completely the other way - I think I should be able to buy any medication that I like from Asda..............but I wouldn't come on here and ask you which tablets I'm best taking for my chest pains. And if I did I hope you'ld tell me I'm best going to the doctors or...
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    Clarification of regs -adding socket to ring. What required?

    Well, until I get my way and it is banned, I'll just have to live with it, won't I.........as soon as it's banned, I'll object to the helping out. :) So, like I say, I don't mind ...........if the people doing the helping out offer information regarding the complete way to perform the task -...
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    Clarification of regs -adding socket to ring. What required?

    Well, that's just hard luck, John. Electrical work requires a degree of understanding and competence.....if they want to do it, they should learn the correct way 'how-to'......and that includes what testing is required for the job that they intend to undertake. Don't forget - all...
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    Clarification of regs -adding socket to ring. What required?

    I don't see your problem with those three options, John. If a person is undertaking electrical work - whether a DIYer or a fully qualified spark - then they should be competent to do that work.......IN FULL. The 'job' of extending a RFC doesn't end when you screw in the last conductor on...
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    Clarification of regs -adding socket to ring. What required?

    Whatever work the 'DIYer does - regardless of notification requirements - would need testing in accordance with BS7671. If the OP was to proceed with the other work that he mentioned in this thread (i.e. extending the RFC further), then it would require extensive testing. IMO He has 3...
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    Clarification of regs -adding socket to ring. What required?

    Yes, but John, the terminology they use is the same I was taught. Switches, FCUs, socket outlets - they're electrical accessories. Fridges, cookers, drills, lathes, washing machines - they're electrical equipment (sometimes 'appliances'). RCDs, MCBs, Fuses - they're protective...
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    Clarification of regs -adding socket to ring. What required?

    If this is the case, and these items are already exempt by point 1 a), why does point 2 c) in Schedule 4 state: 2. Work which— (a)is not in a kitchen, or a special location;. (b)does not involve work on a special installation; and. (c)consists of—. (i)adding light fittings and...
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    Clarification of regs -adding socket to ring. What required?

    You're thinking about it the wrong way round. It's 'Building Regs & Notification' - nothing to do with your competence or the fact that you've worked on big motors. :) That's like a retired 'Brickie' complaining that he has to notify BC about the extension he's building on his house -...
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    Clarification of regs -adding socket to ring. What required?

    Firstly, they kidded me by calling it DIYnot.com...........or did you not notice that bit. :) Secondly, there are some very intelligent, knowledgeable people on here who are definitely not DIYers - so I enjoy the discussions. I don't normally think about what's notifiable etc etc because...
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    Clarification of regs -adding socket to ring. What required?

    The reason it is mentioned in these two circumstances, and not in any others, is because the work involved could alter the cable installation/reference method and thereby, (indirectly), affect the protective measures of the circuit. This wouldn't happen when adding a socket outlet, would it...
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