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Well, that would apply to any testing - e.g. RFC tests on a new build - you still have to terminate the conductors in the CU afterward. :) To be honest, Zs testing at each socket would then give you readings that implied that all was well when compared with your R1 +R2 - along with visually...

So where do you want to draw the line?? We either follow the 'Regs' guidance and run the appropriate tests on any circuits that we alter - or we second guess the IEE (as some posters are doing), and decide for ourselves what we should or shouldn't test. If we're going to do the latter...

John, You asked the questions of electricians on the forum.......I gave you an electricians answer. Regardless of Part P and the building regs, we work to BS7671 (or an equivalent standard) BS7671 requires that ALL electrical work be inspected and tested to prove that it satisfies the...

To carry on mine and John's example of adding a socket to a ring final circuit - a very simple job within itself. So the DIYer taps into an existing socket, runs 6 metres of cable and installs his new double socket outlet. He now has to get three 2.5mm conductors into two of the existing...

Only replacement of accesories or luminaires. Then they shouldn't be calling themselves electricians.. It would not normally be just the new cable that required testing. If they extend and add a socket to, say, a Ring Final, then it would be necessary to do the full Ring Fnal...

610.4 For an addition or alteration to an existing installation, it shall be verified that the addition or alteration complies with the Regulations and does not impair the safety of the existing installation. 631.1 Upon completion of the verification of a new installation or changes to...

Lets assume for a minute that you are an electrician - I suppose you won't object to being asked by your local 'Building Control' to 'Inspect & Test' a DIYers installation for them, (first and second fix), and confirm that it complies with the relevant legislation............free of charge...

I think most of the confusion and bickering would stop if people started to look at the whole thing from the correct perspective. i.e. STOP referring to 'Part P' as some kind of entity in it's own right..........we've had the phrase used in a multitude of wrong ways and it must get on other...

Just the one problem with your statement, Goofy, This........... ........isn't likely to kill you if you get it wrong. :)

Could you tell us what cables enter the three gang switch and how many conductors (and their colors) each cable contains. Then could you tell us where each conductor is connected to at present.

Would it not make more sense to have an electrician do a PIR on the property first - that way anything that needs doing can be done before you dot and dab etc.............seems the logical way to me. That way, you will also know if any 'notifiable' work is required.

Sums it up really, doesn't it - hasn't got a clue, but will have a go tomorrow! Fuse bypassed?? Reversed polarity?? Ring continuity broken?? (If spurred off RFC) But he'll have a go tomorrow - it's a joke!

I don't need to do this to prove my point - the 'person carrying out the work' is responsible for some aspects of notification - I have shown that in my previous posts, BUT..... The initial submission of the building notice, and payment of respective fees, is the responsibility of the...

Another cut-and-paste reply from one of your previous posts - and all 'Totally Irrelevant' to the initial notification of proposed works. The home/building owner submits the 'Initial Application/Building Notice' - and pays the appropriate fee!! - then there are various stages at which further...

A lot of confusion over this issue - and as I don't use this route, I thought I'd check out my local council 'Building Notice' application form. The first box on the form states: Accompanying the form were a set of notes: Note 1 states: 1. The applicant is the person on whose behalf...

A good point, John - and sad! I've got to get my kitchen skimmed so I'm going to have to find myself a 'Competent Plasterer' :) Might be a good angle for a 'tongue in cheek' advertising campaign, though :- 'Incompetent Electrician - All work undertaken. No job too small. :)

The problem with this is, if it all goes pear-shaped and you say "The DNO advised me to do it" - They're going to say "No, we never"....so I'd want it writing. :) Doesn't help your question, though. Like the others said, you have to contact the DNO regardless and see what they offer as a...

Why have you only found this out at the end of the day? How do you know it's TN-C-S if there is no link between the neutral and earth? You cannot just insert a link between neutral and earth (creating TN-C-S) without confirming that the supply neutral is actually a PEN conductor and part...

How certain are you that it's a 'ring' - or are you just assuming it is? What size is the cable running to the additional sockets?