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Would you like me to hand feed you the answer, or would you just like a little clue to help you towards self-enlightenment. (I find the latter to be far more satisfying)

start your own, appropriately titled thread to discuss this and i will happily explain see last post

John, with respect, should you wish to use this forum for your own educational purposes, i see no problem with that, (I believe everyday should be a school day) but can you put your thoughts and postulations into your own threads instead of constantly hijacking other peoples posts and taking...

What if the Ze was <0.04 ohm? All valid guesswork, but thats what it is, guesswork. Hence why i suggested that the spark be more specific.

LABC sparks really needs to raise his game and start being more specific. what next 'wiring is too wirey'?

Take a sensible approach, its not massively important, then the next competent person to work on the smokes will have no problem to see how things are connected. I take it you have both brown and blue sleeving?

Blimey, are you feeling ok? :) What, not even if one of the readers of this thread happens to work in BC? Its nice to see you giving credit to others here. Well done, I approve.

Oh thats ok then, its just that your question sounded direct as opposed to rhetorical.

hi john, (posting from phone, so ill be brief) two points, 1, what do you think to the rest of the post which you partially quoted here? 2, why did you bother to suggest scousespark said something he didn't say if you didn't think he mean't that anyway?

I doubt that is what he means. IMO, they want a declaration from a competent person that the job has been done correctly. Whether they want safety for homeowners or simply a risk transfer mechanism should something go up in flames for CYA purposes is open for (long winded?) debate.

Well, if its now just a case of repeat yourself....

Yep, thats the one. Yep, thats it.

John, just out of curiosity, have you seen the list of members comprising JPEL/64 and the various group they represent?

Sorry John, but with respect, i think you are losing the plot a bit.

Nope, its not silly

I believe the members of JPEL/64 have precisely that authority (in respect to BS7671) I'm hardly singling you out, nor being pedantic. In fact, i find it mildly amusing that you are calling me pedantic. (pot/kettle. glasshouses etc etc) When it is you who is asserting that it is not...

Yes please, where appropriate, just to clarify to the readers when you are conveying some kind of fact, or just giving your opinion. Maybe if you do think its unacceptable, you should write a letter of complaint to the IET, see what they say :wink:

Are you in a position of authority to declare what is and is not acceptable to the general public (or the electrical trade)? Or is that simply your isolated, unsupported opinion? So far, you appear to be on your own.

OIC. Still, I'm wondering if banging you head against the wall of NIC towers trying to get some info that may not exist 2 years on might be more of a headache than trying to trace out all the wiring and making the diagrams your self. Is there a problem with the system or are you just after a...

is it a bespoke system design or an off the shelf jobbie? Can't the manufacturer, rather than the installer provide the details?