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    Running Power to my Garage (prefab concrete external strutr)

    B-A-S - nice, concise, and considered reply :P
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    2.5mm² for a lighting circuit? (And why not in a ring??)

    > Switches are only not allowed in rooms containing a bath or shower Switches are. The wiring accessory must be suitable for the Zone requirements defined in BS7671. - In Zone 2 - needs IPx4 (masterseal, clipsal weatherproof) - In Zone 3 / Outside Zone 2 - conventional switch ok The...
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    Notifying a job you didn't do?

    From AD P P1 6 April 2006. My emphasis. Third party certification. 1.28 Unregistered installers should NOT themselves arrange for a third part to carry out inspection and testing. The third part - not having supervised the work from the outset - would NOT be in a position to verify that...
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    Notifying a job you didn't do?

    > Isn't replacing an outside light switch: > (a) replacing any fixed electrical equipment which does not include the provision of— > (i) any new fixed cabling; or > (ii) a consumer unit;"? > which would therefore be a non notifiable activity? Correct, thank you for the correction...
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    Notifying a job you didn't do?

    > no gas bond, no earthing to lights That worries me most, and the LABC may well S36 the client. - No spark with knowledge of IEE wiring regs would not MEB to gas - No spark would cutoff earth wires in ceiling roses or backboxes? Or do you mean he only did a partial rewire & some lights...
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    Notifying a job you didn't do?

    You can not legally notify someone elses work. No client, employer or labc can require you to do so. Full stop. Legally. 1. LABC may choose to accept a Satisfactory PIR. 2. LABC must serve a Section 36 notice within 12 months of works completion for corrective works. This does not...
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    Running Power to my Garage (prefab concrete external strutr)

    PROBLEM. That could be what the end result "looks like". However there are *MANY* critical technical details affecting the design. These are related to compliance with BS7671 AND to safety. There are no DIY kits due to those critical technical details. SOLUTION. 1. Introduction...
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    Running Power to my Garage (prefab concrete external strutr)

    You want... - IEE Wiring Matters - Autumn 2005 - ELECTRICAL INSTALLATIONS OUTDOORS: A SUPPLY TO A DETACHED OUTBUILDING - By John Ware It gives a good primer on the relevant aspects. I have just been to the IET website and can not find it, perhaps someone has a direct link to the PDF...
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    Wow... Ring type lighting circuit!?!?!

    If you disconnect one leg of the lighting ring, does the 2-way switching in the hall still work? One way of doing 2-way switching without 3C+E is to use a second wire for the neutral which returns to the CCU. That was common in the 1950s and the person may have duplicated the layout they...
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    Dangerous PME electric box

    > Do the cut-out tails not need to be IP4X? Cut-out tails exiting cutout do so at the top. - IP4x applies - 1mm ball/rod test Cut-out tails exiting cutout & entering meter do so at bottom - IP2x applies - 12.5mm ball/rod test Not sure if DNO equipment must meet the IP4x test on...
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    how to terminate swa

    1. Copper can not be buried direct in concrete. - Concrete will attack copper quite aggressively & perforate - Not uncommon with u/f GCH copper pipes run in the screed - wet floor Solutions - Run copper in plastic conduit - Use PVC coated copper pipe, white for water, yellow for gas -...
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    2.5mm² for a lighting circuit? (And why not in a ring??)

    "2 way cable saving method"... WTF? :-) :-) ARGH. OP... 1. BUY 6243Y 3Core+Earth from www.tlc-direct.co.uk BY THE METRE. 2. Sleeve lighting tails correctly. 3. BUY a proper book - Whitfields Guide For Electricians & Executioners still around? If you are still unsure, draw out what...
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    2.5mm² for a lighting circuit? (And why not in a ring??)

    I notice from your diagram you show central ceiling roses in bedrooms. Generally one tries to fit ceiling roses by the window, that is to replicate external lighting and to avoid undesireable shadows. If you put a light in the centre and someone walks naked across the window, their naked body...
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    2.5mm² for a lighting circuit? (And why not in a ring??)

    To OP. You need to buy the IEE OnSiteGuide AND a good Electricians Guide. - Problem is not what you know, but that you do NOT know what you NEED to know. - You must ensure all work complies with BS7671 IEE Wiring Regulations, including best practice, right materials etc. Domestic...
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    Summerhouse Electric Supply

    Ban-All-Sheds wrote... > Nevertheless, if you ar digging a trench & laying conduit, why not > run a couple of lengths of shielded Cat6, just in case? Same goes for in case he ever wanted alarm protection of the summerhouse, or a remote camera over IP. People do sometimes later want alarm...
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    Summerhouse Electric Supply

    Your Vdrop is a bit high, 8.7V. - That is 40m from the shed to summerhouse - Excludes internal wiring within the summerhouse - Excludes Vdrop on the run to the shed I would use 6mm SWA. Particularly if you plan on any tools in or *running-off* the summerhouse. 17th changed the Vdrop...
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    Summerhouse Electric Supply

    1. Vdrop... Do you plan on any power tools in the summer house/shed? - If so I would use 6mm, it is only money :-) BAWAAHAHAHAHA! - Induction motors drop your voltage quite a bit during startup - lights dim 2. 17th... Distribution & final circuits require RCD protection - SWA cable does...
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    Can anyone suggest why the Cut out fuse has gone twice?

    Very strange. Quality control on electrical stuff is pretty poor these days. The cause of failure of old-fuse & new-fuse may be quite unrelated.
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    Can anyone suggest why the Cut out fuse has gone twice?

    > First power up main fuse went!!! > turned out pre built split load board was a duffer. Not sure how a board blows the main fuse. BS1361 63-80-100A fuse takes 800-1200A to blow instantly. During which time you are treated to a a large flash & pop. Could be a bad termination in the...
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    Dangerous PME electric box

    Without a photo, no-one can comment. DNO = District Network Operator which is who operates the network in your area as opposed to who actually supplies you with electricity. 1. If it is metal, it needs changing by DNO. Typically hessian covered PILC (lead covered) cable, terminated with...
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