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i sympathise entirely with the family you've mentioned. these racists should be dealt with in the same way that the extremists should be: discarded from society. neither are going to change their views, and neither should be allowed to continue living (IMO). its moderate non-whites who will...

there was another post about female genital mutilation only a couple of days ago (cant find it, someone post link??). i think it can be agreed by most that its out of order. just because it happens in other societies, doesnt mean it can happen here. we do have a right to oppose it here in the...

i didn't say the majority, i said about 20-30%. by discussing and listening to each other's points and sources of information and other facts, we will all eventually come to a reasonable assessment of the true level of extremism and 'moderatism' of muslims in the uk. note that the government's...

http://www.ipcs.org/South_Asia_articles2.jsp?action=showView&kValue=828&country=1016&status=article&mod=a note the US has abandoned pointing the finger at pakistan for now, as their 'help' was needed in fighting the taliban. also the US does have its hands full at the moment. the problem...

i disagree with you here. what evidence can you show to say that most muslims are moderate?? how do you, i, or anyone else know, how many muslims really trully are moderate or extremist?? you could poll them, but many extremists will pretend to be moderates. the impression i get is that...

you're correct, it doesn't. and i did highlight this in my first post: its the proportion of extremists to normal people that is really under question. some will argue that extremists number maybe 0.001%, others will argue 99% of their population is extremist. now if you believe that the...

this may be, but (as ive just said in another post) the argument should be left in the original post and not dragged into another. there'll be less arguing and more reasonable discussion then.

i think your 'beef' with freddie etc started before i got involved in the general chat forum. now im not saying you are right, or he is right, its just that in this post, you seem to be the aggressor. if he did indeed say crap, then he should be confronted in that particular post, rather than in...

i didn't want to come across as pointing the finger, as i don't know all the facts. which is why i said in my first post: however, the information in the links above for example, amongst with the other points i made, does still show signs of extremism in pakistan.

but you have misunderstood the point. which is if you support extremist islam, you don't suddenly become moderate again. which is why pakistan very likely continues to privately support the taliban. whereas the west, although they supported the taliban, they never supported extremist islam. do...

there's a big difference here. the mosques have only recently been targeted, and only as a result of these bombings. yes it's wrong, but it's got nothing to do with christians, its against christianity: 'love thy neighbour'. in pakistan, churches are being attacked just because they're churches...

a good post, summarising the known facts. oilman, you seem to have been the unreasonable one in this thread, as you picked on freddie for no reason. your first comment in this thread was: and look at his opening post, anything unreasonable in it??: are you saying the decision made by...

i don't think you've thought this through, which is why you haven't understood the point kendor. the west supported the taliban to fight the russians. the west only did this for military and strategic reasons. are you suggesting the west supports the cause of extremist islam, based on the above...

http://www.arabicbible.com/ac/saudi/religious_freedom_in_sa.htm islams position on non-muslims: http://answering-islam.org.uk/NonMuslims/rights.htm non-muslim websites are blocked by the saudi govt too: http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2002/130/31.0.html with links to harvard uni's...

it is a shame. however we were told by the police that the shot man was definitely directly linked and under surveillance, and now he's completely unrelated. whats going on? i don't know the circumstances, obviously, but why did the guy keep running?? if some blokes said 'police stop', why...

they supported the taliban up until only a 3/4 years ago. why would anyone support the taliban?? only if they sympathised with the cause ie extremist islam. pakistan couldn't have just instantly 'changed' its mind on something as fundamental as that. so its only natural to assume they changed...

go for orange. i used to work for orange, honestly say they were pretty good. check out their online deals - 200 mins & 500txts, or 300mins & 0 txts for £30. you can then go into your local official orange shop and get it all from there, including other in-store offers like buybacks etc...

good luck getting it sorted. have a look at your house/near your house if you can see loose cables etc.., just so you can point it out to them.

caress - there's a difference between your electricity supplier and your electricity distributor (DNO/REC as mapj1 said). the electricity supplier is who bills you. the distributor is who maintains the network in your area. these are the guys who you need to speak to. if you don't know who...

the pakistani government has in the past, been a strong supporter for the taliban regime in afghanistan. the government is also strongly suspected of giving military aid to extremists fighting in kashmir, their official stance is that they're only sympathetic to their cause. pakistan is also...