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  1. 13-09-09

    13-09-09

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    Thermosyphoning... how to stop it!

    Pics of installation should be with you now.... hope they show everything clearly. Let me know if you want some more from different angles, closeups etc Cheers... Will see if I can upload them into my library... . . Ok, all seems to be in the library now... I omitted to label the heat...
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    Thermosyphoning... how to stop it!

    :cry: I am caught in the middle here as it were, if I start instructing the plumber saying put this here and put that there; then if or when it doesn't work it becomes MY problem, not his, and I would think the plumber would clap his hands with glee and ride off on his horse into the sunset...
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    Thermosyphoning... how to stop it!

    Ok, cheers, will see what I can do.. . .
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    Thermosyphoning... how to stop it!

    Norcon remembers my posts from months ago when it all started to tits up with the install. Yes, the plumber is HETAS registered and it's a current registration, and it is the actual guy who "took" the registration... The kind people at HETAS told me so when I checked him out. Would a picture...
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    Thermosyphoning... how to stop it!

    Ok, will read it tongue in cheek.. Better not give it to my plumber! he will have a field day!!! (or a fit!!) :lol: . .
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    Thermosyphoning... how to stop it!

    Wouldn't a flap valve hinder the gravity circulation that is supposed to go the correct way round the system, we struggle to get the heat the stove is capable of creating into the store as it is... F&E tanks, hot water feeds and rad pipes omitted for clarity.. :wink: Besides it took me long...
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    Thermosyphoning... how to stop it!

    Nope, same plumber, same system..... :( But... he has a deadline now... Do you think 12 months is unreasonable to resolve a problem? :? . .
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    Thermosyphoning... how to stop it!

    [/url] Great, have downloaded the file and will peruse the contents therein. . .
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    Thermosyphoning... how to stop it!

    . . True scale 3D image showng piping layout. Green "plates" are 250mm apart to show relative levels of everything. Note immersion on same side of tank as inlet/outlet. Added later... actual tank is about 100mm shorter than shown, that height shown allows for "tails" for hot water on...
  11. 11-09-09

    11-09-09

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    Thermosyphoning... how to stop it!

    Here are the relative pipe runs to and from the stove. All drawn to scale.. H = horzontal V = vertical Pipework on flow from stove H450 - 90deg - H1100 - 135deg – H200 – 90deg – Vup800 – 90deg – H200 – 90deg – Vuo100 – 90deg H100 and into Tank That is a vertical 900 mm rise from the...
  13. 11-09-09

    11-09-09

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    Thermosyphoning... how to stop it!

    Yes I know, It is all over the installation manuals, highlighted in bold..... I don't think he has looked at the manuals yet... I wonder if thats why we can only get one shower and the washing up done and then there is no hot water.. :( How can you tell if the inner tank has collapsed...
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    Thermosyphoning... how to stop it!

    . . Dunsley... yes... know about them. opted for a thermal store/sludge bucket/heat bank/calorifier call it what you will.... as opposed to one of those. Several type of neutralizers available and it's basically a very small tank with tappings.... same as a thermal store/sludge...
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    Thermosyphoning... how to stop it!

    My good news is I'm pleased it is (with no link to any lager company!) My Bad, Bad, Terrible news is the person working on it, trying to get it to work since November last year, despite his protests he has installed "loads of them", doesn't appear to have a clue.... :( . .
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    Thermosyphoning... how to stop it!

    . . . Here is a link to the site.... The store is the SLME 300 http://www.acv-uk.com/slme.htm . . .
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    Thermosyphoning... how to stop it!

    . . Yes, it is an ACV SLME 300 - the Multi energy one, with solar coil etc... Stove goes in top left and comes out bottom left. Oil boiler goes in RHS above solar and comes out RHS below solar coil. . .
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    Thermosyphoning... how to stop it!

    . . Nowt between burner 'n bucket except loads of 90 deg bends! Same on the return. Going to measure up all distances and rises etc tonight and post (will even attempt a diagram!!) . .
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    Thermosyphoning... how to stop it!

    . . I know he should.... 10 months down the line I was expecting to be sat with my feet up in front of the stove, instead he is still here plumbing and replumbing, pumps here one day, all changed the next, stats moved from one pipe to another.... Fed up... :? . .
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