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Has your beloved condell ever actually stated any positive benefits and advantages of brexit? Not just the standard loose words, but real statements? Oh, and which brexit, soft, hard, brino, wto, I forget which was the winning vote.

Typical blinkered view. Where was my anti uk narrative? My point, if you understood it, was about the future defence of the UK, something I want defended. Do you think we are strong enough currently to be a major player, or superpower? What about when we brexit, do you think we will get...

A logical comment from a brexit voter. Accepting he voted for something different. Tory MP Zac Goldsmith, the party's London mayoral candidate in 2016, has revealed he has sent a letter. Writing in the Sunday Telegraph, the Brexiteer said that under the PM's plan "in effect, Britain would...

Or probably, like around 50% , are forward thinking, not backward looking. Not everybody has a siege mentality. Anybody asked him?

Tell eddiem, he thinks we are still a superpower. We are struggling to even be a major player ! We have a choice of future allies, we should be thinking past the initial blinkers!

Does anybody think fossil fuels are still our future ? Anybody think fracking is fully safe and nothing to worry about ?

I haven't seen any of this punishment. All I have seen is quiet polite rational comments. Maybe I am not reading the right papers or news sources ?

I think you have missed the point. Why are we even in this position? Where are these deals with the EU that we were prooised? Were we not told the EU would be breaking its back to do a deal? It needs us ? Needs to keep us happy ? When will it dawn on brexiteers? Will it ever ?

I thought getting a brexit deal would be easy? Were we not told that by the brexiteer leaders? Dawning on anybody yet that we dont carry as much power and clout that was shouted about? May has obviously got the best deal she can. It doesn't matter what anybody says or thinks, it's what can...

May be obvious, but I don't share your belief. Do you think Blair took us to war on his own thoughts? Or had his arm up his back ? We rely on the usa for our defence. Everybody in the military will tell you that.

We may have the actual metaphoric button to press (which really means the responsibility to account for it after). Do you honestly, think that we would ever press that button without the USA saying so? They are ours, we pay for them. Helps us achieve our nato spend. But I don't believe we...

So you agree they are not ours to fire. So who controls our armies? Not us. But you disagree with having a more equal say ?

You want to believe in fairy tales, or unwritten history, or have had a special visit, or any other reason, you go for it. But you cannot challenge the logical questioning of somebody asking why, if you believe in religion, why 1 is right and all the others are wrong. If, and it is a big IF...

Does anybody think that if push came to shove, that we would fire our trident missiles without the usa agreeing, or telling us to ? If not, then are they ours ? Other than being paid for by us of course.

Makes him favourite to be their new leader then! Not a lot of choice of quality when you look around in detail at the candidates.

Do I care enough to find out ?

Believe it or not, I am not known to or by anybody on here. Similar points of view and outlook is all. We don't agree on everything by a long shot, but we certainly object to similar things

Only if we are not part of the deciding table. Similar to brexit, we walk away from the table ? And do you really think the Germans are looking to rearm and fight? Do you not understand their politics and culture? The idea of a combined army is for peace, and strength, not division. I would...

The 2% figure can be very misleading. A lot of that is in buying and maintaining equipment, and armament from...., yes you have guessed it.

You think we control our forces currently? We do exactly as we are told, that is before we get even closer to the usa. Careful what you wish for!