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I do have some sympathy with some of what you have said. We might not be ablaze but there are a fair number of DIY accidents each year (haven't looked it up but ROSPA I think have the figures). I agree CORGI is a "paper tiger". Despite problems, poor workmanship etc. no one gets thrown out...

Would you care to tell us what is needed then? joe-90 needs to know for starters. The point I made is that most DIYers don't have this equipment, wouldn't buy it (even if it was available in B&Q) and wouldn't know what to do with it anyway.

The right tools like pressure test equipment for gas, electrical test equipment for Part P just the sort of tools all DIYers have or will be getting this Christmas...NOT.

Softus I wasn't being too serious, but I read parts of the regulations and now need to know the legal interpretation of parts relating to tenants. I think lodgers don't count. I think tenant in context of landlord and gas may cover most tenancies except lodgers but I'll have a read sometime...

I was wondering where that email was Thermo. In my mind it causes more questions than gives answers. I would like to know the law on which it is based that says it is OK to do gas work in your own home except when you have a lodger. Can you legally do gas work provided the lodger is out at the time?

Thanks Moz. The discussion, particularly between myself and Softus has been to do with the interpretation of the Law and what is law and what amounts to guidance. We will now have some more thinking and discussing to do. Softus, if the law specifies "or in control to any extent of such work...

Would that be with an antique, a football or using your pet?

Totally agree with Pickles. You can now do what you want and plant something better. Having said that leylandii have there places and it is mainly owners not cutting them back until it is too late, or ignoring them completely which causes problems. There isn't much else that grows that fast. A...

I have seen some of his work and I can't say I like it. On the other hand the guy seems really genuine and a bit of a character. http://www.salvager.tv/site/index.php

Some further points. Softus, I understand your criticism of "prove competence" now as you, I believe, are saying that to "prove" in a court of law is absolute. Therefore to "prove competence" would require perfection or near perfection in every case, a standard which would be impossible to...

The problem is that we (society, law-makers) have only agreed a method for the demonstration of competence for the tradesperson.

I'm going to try this one again, because I am now coming to the conclusion that the laws in this area are worse (badly written) than I suspected in terms of protecting the public (in some cases from themselves). Do we have the following situation?: 1. To work with gas you need to be...

I don't know the details of the law (please be careful what you say if you want to quote me on that - not you Softus, but a few other readers) but I believe that the law requires you to be competent and the only body currently appointed / allowed / directed ( and I don't know what the exact word...

And for Softus http://www.rla.org.uk/rla.exe?input=../rla/scrp/rpi/rpi_02fm_yourself.htm Landlord fitted gas fire which leaked. It was 2002 or earlier and unfortunately doesn't give details of the offence(s) he was charged with. Although I still don't think this was the case I had in mind.

I think the person who used the phrase "get away with" was me - regarding DIYers doing gas work. I will try to explain. I believe it is a grey area in the law that DIYers are allowed to do gas work. The word used is competent. The law (I think, but someone may correct me) says you have to be...

You used to be directed to the ODPM if you put a very rude word in Google and clicked the "I'm feeling lucky" button. The variation I like is all the mis-spellings on websites. Try a search on Google for Yorksh*te Terriers and you get pages of the things.

I have read through this all again and the one further point of note is that the wording in that huge picture of a leaflet someone posted implies that you need to notify Building Control if you want to move a gas boiler or fire. I say implies as it says "will the Building Regulations apply? All...

That's why I was looking for the plastic gas pipe one, because I think he was convicted on the basis of H&S breaches. To draw an interesting analysis: If I were to run over someone in my car and kill them I would be charged with causing death by dangerous driving not driving incompetently...

1. "Gas work must be carried out by competent persons." I was trying to make it simpler. It appeared it needed to be for some people. I'm happy to stick with "No person shall carry out any work in relation to a gas fitting or gas storage vessel unless he is competent to do so." if you are. And...

No but as you pointed out they aren't CORGI registered "at weekends", it's their employer that is registered and holds the insurance. So their work is illegal. Do you expect them to give you a receipt with their CORGI reg number on for work they do at "weekends"? Do you expect their employer...