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  1. frank999

    No EIC for recent Flat conversion

    Thanks for your help here John ... and to a 'reasonable' conclusion.
  2. frank999

    No EIC for recent Flat conversion

    Thanks for the above John, I had a conversation today with my Electrician regarding paperwork for this install, and he advised that he issues EICR's on lots of jobs where completed installations are not issued with EICs, and advised it was common and normal practice, so whilst the lack of an...
  3. frank999

    No EIC for recent Flat conversion

    Thank you for all your replies, so much information. I brought the builders in to deliver a project - and deliver it with all the correct paperwork, its only now I am forced to learn the intracies of certifying/testing/notifying etc etc of electrical work. I feel much wiser after the event...
  4. frank999

    No EIC for recent Flat conversion

    Please tell us where Part P states an EIC is not required and for what electrical work an EIC is not required. Yes, this is what I'm asking. Today I chipped away screed at the rooms edges - to follow cable embeddeed run at the screeds edge, it revealled cables passing against some areas of...
  5. frank999

    No EIC for recent Flat conversion

    and some one prepaired to hold up their hands and say I have done this job, and I have done to to IET/Bsi rules. But, with the builder being uncommunictive, and their Electrician not willing to sign off their work, there is no one willing to do this. I think your going OTT, so you simply hide...
  6. frank999

    No EIC for recent Flat conversion

    The debate is all very helpful. As developer and soon to be landlord, I need to be sure the new circuits and installation that are 'installed' are safe. My Onsite Guide states the 'The EICR does not certify anything and, hence, must not be issued to certify new electrical installation work'...
  7. frank999

    Main board Earth blocks - shear screws

    You will notice that what you thought was fully tight, now isn't Spot on with that, a good few weeks later the degree of tightness feels uncomfortably wrong. I had a thread running that discussed the notion of cable clamping with screw compression vs spring clamps such as Wago's., When...
  8. frank999

    Main board Earth blocks - shear screws

    In the Argos catalogue of all things electric, ie the Screwfix catalogue: '8 Way Earth Block', at least it looks like an earth block from them, who can vouch for the quality is another thing ... the original with the sheared screw was purchased from an independant, and with a bit of cock and...
  9. frank999

    Main board Earth blocks - shear screws

    Do modern main board earth blocks - that accept 16mm² and 10mm² earth cable use 'shear screws' - to ensure cable clamping screws are not overtightened. If they are shear screws, how do you then check the cables are clamped tightly at a later inspection. ... or has my electrical wholesaler sold...
  10. frank999

    No EIC for recent Flat conversion

    Many thanks for the replies. So from a Solicitors and lenders point of view the BCO completion certificate should suffice ??? that then leaves the legal defence. So if the regulations are there to ensure safety, then does not an EIC Installation Certificate ensure that the things you cant see...
  11. frank999

    What is accessable ?

    if an electrician were saying that 'MF' connections had to be accessible (when the whole point of 'MF' is that they needn't be!) Yes that confused me too, I think a while ago he'd just rather not see Wagos' and there boxes, but maybe he has changed his position on them recently.
  12. frank999

    No EIC for recent Flat conversion

    Thanks for the reply if your BCO is prepared to accept an EICR, that would seem the most painless solution! Yes, which I find odd, I expected them to require an EIC, but at least thats one hurdle over come, unsure if finance (mortgage) co. solicitors might require an EIC though. What is the...
  13. frank999

    What is accessable ?

    Thanks for the replies. Umm, all food for thought. Who is advising you that it needs to be accessible? My electrician, although he has since inspected and is now comfortable with the position. The above junction boxes - careful not to over tighten the screws. The loktight seems an...
  14. frank999

    No EIC for recent Flat conversion

    I have a flat conversion coming to completion. One flat was 'mostly' completed by a builder - who left under a slight cloud. During works they informed me the electrics would be Certified by an electrician who trusted them, and worked with them. I was given his number, not that I believed it...
  15. frank999

    What is accessable ?

    A Wago Box with 222's - to extend a radial, positioned in a floor - under carpet, under a floor board, removable with 4 screws. I am advised to leave it 'accessable' ... could it be labelled as accessable in such a position ? The Wago is installed to be MF, so in theory should never need to be...
  16. frank999

    Creating Loop In using connection blocks

    There is nothing wrong with connector blocks in the light casing or fitting. That is excellent news. Thanks. I couldn't see any reason why they wouldn't, but the more experienced here might have had a Regulatory reason up there sleeve, but it appears not.
  17. frank999

    Creating Loop In using connection blocks

    I would not expect the casing has those makings so technically I suppose the answer is no Thanks, this makes one wonder for what purpose are connection blocks ? So where does the use of Connection blocks used in light switch back boxes as the loop in/out lie with the Regs. I have always...
  18. frank999

    Creating Loop In using connection blocks

    Where Ceiling roses are not being used, but the light fitting has just a two wire connector, do Regs allow the use of ordinary connection blocks or Wago's, placed inside the lights casing. I see the loop in has been created behind light switches in other parts of the building here using...
  19. frank999

    Creating access under UFH, set in screed.

    I've made a start ... working in from the edge ... decided push fit's are going to be best suited to cap off the 3 pipes, will foam over and cap with 18mm ply, in case access is ever needed. Have one pipe in middle of screed to cap off, will use thermal imager once heat is running through the...
  20. frank999

    Wired Thermostat mm² cable size

    A wired Underfloor heating thermostat, not sure of make yet, maybe one of the Heatmiser's designed for UFH stats, but unsure - so want to have wires available if they are ever needed.
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