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If people are incapable of complying with it in full for the work involved, they should leave it alone altogether. If people choose not to follow 'bits' of BS7671, to which standard do you advocate they follow in order to demonstrate 'reasonable provision etc.'? I have no doubt that an...

Not if you get me :lol: But seriously, how will you convince them? There are lots of posters on here who could benefit from your methods. I don't think DIY.not would benefit though, as all they'd do for every domestical electrical post would be to have an auto message pop up to say 'reasonable...

No, but you do need to prove it to whomever is the decision maker. Either you will convince them or you won't. Mostly irrelevant. Meanwhile, back in the real world....Good luck with your approach. Good luck with convincing anyone who has to 'certify' or 'verify' your compliance with the...

Corgi regulates those activities or actions that the HSE require them to do under the terms of their contract. That is not the same as saying they do not regulate anything. Your opinion of the employees of Corgi or your opinion of the work activities they carry out are nothing more than...

A simple question was asked, to which a simple answer of 'no' was given. The questioner then asked 'why' I replied no. I then answered. I'm very sorry that this confused you. Isn't the onus on you to prove I'm wrong :D ?? Any fool can do that. The onus is on you to convince the person who...

Perhaps if you'd put it like that in the first place, JB wouldn't have taken offence. And if you did mean that, then you should have known that he was asking the question as regards the application of the 80% rule of thumb and you should have answered that. I understood his question to mean...

To regulate an activity or process is to control it, usually by means of rules or laws. So Corgi controls the process of registration and continued registration by means of the rules given to it by HSE - thereby regulating who can or can't do something as laid down by the HSE.

Firstly, define your resonable provisions and then define your measurement of them. (You have referred to BS7671 so we will consider this standard only). If you are going to adopt a 'standard' in order to accomodate the above, then you adopt the standard. You don't cherry pick the parts of...

No.

Try Newey and Eyre or else CEF. You might find that your local branch doesn't carry them as stock, but they'll be able to get one from 'another' branch - perhaps for a small delivery fee.

A loop tester might be manually operated but it measures and calculates Zs automatically :D And it doesn't display what it measures. It displays what it calculates after measuring something else i.e. not Zs :D

Still shaking Boss... :lol:

:roll: The context is scientific - nice try!!! However, if you wish to stick to your guns, then your answer is gibberish within an engineering or scientific context. :roll: I've already answered earlier in the thread. It's not my fault you haven't read or have chosen to ignore it. I wasn't...

If you observe something, you note it - you don't say 'whilst I was observing, such and such probably happened, but I have no idea if it actually did or didn't'. :lol: Why do you think the IEE OSG in not sensible? The IEE have deemed it to be long enough. Hence their explicit guidance on...

Probably....how very scientific :lol: :lol: :lol: Has anyone actually bothered to clamp their cooker circuit yet? Perhaps few have clamp meters :) And if we are going to do 'experiments', let's stick to something like for like please. Otherwise serious people will just laugh. :D :D...

You can compare because that it what the IEE are saying you can do. Either you agree with the principles of diversity or you don't. The 6mm cooker circuit is a throwback to the days of old. The usual excuse is for future upgrading. But anything can happen in the future. The future is likely...

The reality is that it is the IEE who is giving this advice. I presented an example of applying diversity to a post which appeared not to have considered diversity. As far as diversity is concerned, is more diversity applied anywhere than on a socket final circuit? To worry, without...

So, you can't give a sound engineering argument. If you had said that you'd clamped a great number of cookers during the period when every element was switched on and noted how long it took for the current to 'settle', you would have a practical answer. One that might suprise you given the...

Why not? Can you base an answer on engineering? If you came across it on a PIR, for example, what would you do? And what would you do if the person ordering the PIR took the issue further? Why do you think Table 1A is insane?

Why are you accusing the IEE of not being sensible?