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From GN7: Zones provide a practical method of specifying requirements for protection against the ingress of water and protection against electric shock, supplementary bonding etc. Equipment is either in a zone or outside a zone and this can be determined by measurement. It doesn't say that...

:roll: Only a Court of Law is the law. However deluded you and BAS are on this, it is a Court of Law that finds a person guilty or not guilty. It's a small consideration in a free and civilised society, but it's one which has obviously slipped your mind. The definition of a Special Location...

And you've just mentioned it again :roll: :roll: I like a plumber with a sense of humour :lol: That means you too, and your pal BAS. As such, an argument has commenced, which, if it went to its fullest conclusion, would end up in court and the Court of Law would decide. Which is kind of...

Then you must accept that the point in law which you are slavishly adhering to is a piece of written nonsense. If you don't think it is, please show me where in BS7671:2001 (or 2008) that zones are defined ' for a bath or shower'. It is you, not I, who is taking the literal word of the law and...

I'm not, but it appears you and BAS are. Mine is always open - unlike, it would appear, yours. Facts are facts and if you can't accept that, I rather fancy it's you who is being pathetic.

:lol: Are you really attempting to suggest that a Court of Law would not provide a binding definition if the matter ended up in a Court of Law and the 'definition' were disputed by the opposing QC's? (In the real world that is) I would agree with you on that point. But then the point BAS is...

I take you you're not weaned then Softie? Either that or you're still struggling with the basics of the English language. :D

I think you're splitting hairs Gary :lol: :lol: :lol:

They should hope that the actual 'Law' would agree with them if ever the actual 'Law' had to make a ruling. I hope you are not assuming to be the absolute authority on all matters pertaining to the Law. :D Equally, it could be asked what people should do if, unlike you, the wording in the...

We can go around in circles if you like, but what's the point? The wording of the Building Regulations is not clear cut b/w. An argument was based on an assumption that 'Part P' notification applied to 'locations' containing a bath or shower. You cut and pasted the wording from the...

Were you by any chance measuring the output voltage with respect to earth?

BS7671:2001 (and 2008) is quite clear. The zones do not apply to a 'bath' or a 'shower'. The zones are defined as applying to 'locations containing a bath or shower'. I'm not sure how anyone can confuse this wording. It seems that the author of this part of the Building Regs got their...

I've seen a big old penny used as a re-wireable fuse. I've seen silver chewing gum paper used as an internal fuse on a TV. Sellotape junction boxes on lights.

In which case, why not get a quote for the whole lot and then compare it to the cost of notifying LABC plus electrician?

If you've already paid the LABC, why not do everything yourself and save some money?

As far as I am aware, BS7671:2001 does not specify any zones for a bath or shower. It specifies zones for 'locations' containing a bath or shower. A such, the definition as laid down in the Building Regulations 2000 could be said to be confused at best and gibberish at worse. Once an argument...

You can think what you like but gibberish is defined as 'Unintelligible or nonsensical talk or writing.' What you wrote made no sense at all, so by definition it was gibberish. And everyone is used to you making improper comments, jumping down peoples throats, being pedantic, writing...

:D ...so anyway, you made a mistake Ah...so now you're saying that your mistakes are actually my mistakes...and you still haven't apologised like you said you would. So now we can add a double crossing nature to your tendency to lie lie lie... It's not my fault or anyone else's that you...

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Between which neutral and which earth are you measuring? Would the radio based matter involve a separate earth to mains fed equipment by any chance? Is it 'hi-fi' based radio or HF/uhf radio?