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BAS, if you expect me to plough through all that, you're mistaken. If you would like to summarise a point of view, for example, we can take it from there. Another thing, don't blame others for your mistakes. You've admitted making at least one, you've said you would apologise if you...

I must disagree...if she'd been your Uncle, I would say that counts as 3 points. But then it's 3 points less too - so perhaps it's all the same. I think what you meant to say was 'Monkey's Uncle'. :D

If I've read your post correctly, you have two sets of tails from one supply but don't have a single mains switch.

Did you read all that? If you did, perhaps you could do me a favour and summarise a salient point or two? I'd be most grateful. :) (whisper: I think it will be locked to save BAS's blushes - keep it under your hat though)

I guess you spent hours doing all that. It may come as no surprise to you that I won't be reading it. It tired out my finger scrolling down to the bottom. I thought at one point my mouse was going to hold out for more rolled oats. Until you are are prepared to grow up and join a mature...

The thrust of this thread and the preceeding thread was to do with a CU replacement. As for other work, it must be taken on merit each time, taking into consideration the extent of the work and the condition of the installation. I don't think a list of all permuations could be made. In...

Not sure I agree with you PartP. First: your definition Alter - to make different without changing into something else. (note: BS7671 doesn't use this word, it uses the word 'alteration'. If it's like for like, it's not different. It doesn't alter the characteristics, loading, danger...

If anyone's the liar, it;s you. How many times do you want me to answer? No matter how much you badger, harrass and twist, I've given my answer. What you have not done is to give any logical or reasonable reply to my answer. Another scandalous lie from you - should we expect any different...

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: Let me re-phrase 'how many times are you going to bang on about the same rubbish? There probably isn't in BAS7671...who cares ? :roll: Then first learn how to understand and apply logic and consistency.

:roll: :roll: :roll: How many times? :roll: Then what are you blithering on about? How many times are you going to change your mind? I've lost count. Let's assume there are no other defects (as you like to assume things)... Is a like for like replacement an addition - No. Is a like for...

131.8 for the umpteenth time :roll: (and to prevent a nit-pick, we are talking about a like for like replacement). Of course if by like fr like we mean a Class 1 replacement for a broken Class 1 light on a circuit without a cpc, then there is a problem - in which case the job should be refused...

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Let's assume that we are talking about a '17th' CU - one which encompasses by one means or another RCD protection for all circuits. Let's assume that your existing installation is an old Wylex BS3036 rewireable fusewire board, with no cpc in lights, no main protective bonding and no...

:roll: :roll: then you really are ignorant, obtuse and obdurate :roll: :roll: It's in one of the previous threads that was locked. :roll: :roll: I'm glad you finally see sense? Firstly, you wouldn't do as you're not a professional electrician - but then I would have thought most people...

BAS, I said this right at the outset but you disagreed. I said unless you can prove otherwise, you have to assume that cables will require RCD protection. I don't think you can take any other view, especially when changing a CU. This is a tricky position that most electricians find themselves...

I agree with what you are saying... not least because of the potential loss of business for pedantic reasons. But a bathroom is a Special Location (and notifiable) and an electrician has to take special care. What about supp.bonding if none exists? I know you feel it's nothing to do with...

NICEIC technical documents are of a high standard though...but I can't quite understand the approach of their charitable arm - the ESC. Slight body-swerve into PIRs, but still perhaps relevant to this thread: Are they assuming that most electricians are a bit dim and can't be trusted with...

No, what you posted (and in general context) - hence the quote.

Obviously my mistake, but your sentence reads like a dog's dinner which is unusual for you. :D

I can't quite see why anyone would change a CU for cosmetic reasons, but if they did, it comes back to the same thing and the same process of inspection and testing, design and construction in accordance with the current edition of the Regs. The Regs make no allowance for cosmetic or...