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    Newbie sparkie - Favours already??

    What's the chances of the fence being blown down in the wind for example? Or bust by next door's kids kicking a ball against it? Or the elements rotting it in a couple of years etc..??
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    Junction box accessibility - Tightening screws - how often?

    132.12(ii) ; 341.1; Chapter 62 Not a chance. They'll have 10 houses a day to do and it will be piece-work. If the cables have been clipped correctly, there shouldn't be too much to worry about for most. For 'Robin Hood' installs, it might be different. 526.3 (ii) is not a complete...
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    Newbie sparkie - Favours already??

    Your friend has asked you because you are much more learned than he is. You've offered him your opinion (a good one) and he's rejected it. Tell him you can help him do the bodge job to a good standard if you want to but make it clear that it's nothing to do with you. If for a second you think...
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    '17th CU' thread

    I shall rephrase...BAS has repeated his arguments over and over again on many forums over many years and they cycle and roll like the inexorable, unchanging swell of the Drake Passage. And of course BAS....you don't do the job for a living, you've never done the job for a living, you've never...
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    '17th CU' thread

    Despite 'certain' protestations, how you interpret 131.8 (one of the most explicit Regs in the book) may be determined by factors outside of your immediate control: . are you a registered electrician carrying out paid work for a client? . which organisation are you registered with - do...
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    '17th CU' thread

    I understand the points you've made and how you've managed to decipher the postings. There have been many of these arguments with BAS time and time again. What is the law? What does this say? What does this mean? For the first time that I'm aware, BAS finally admitted the tie between the...
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    '17th CU' thread

    International Harmonization seems to suffer from the same fillibustery hubris as the bizare word of internal diplomacy. Meetings, wrapped in committees, inside conventions. :D
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    '17th CU' thread

    So why did you set the precedent and continue it? Ditto. Read your own words. The search facility is quite useful. All answers I give are proper answers. If you can't understand them or you disagree with them, that's your affair. Perhaps it would be easiest if you posted 2 or 3 answers to...
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    '17th CU' thread

    There's nothing to stop you reporting these things to Trading Standards and the HSE. Keep us posted.
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    '17th CU' thread

    I refer the gentleman to the reply I gave some moments ago... :D
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    '17th CU' thread

    Well, we might as well all throw the big red book, guidance notes, on site guide and Part P books in the bin. What a relief! :lol:
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    '17th CU' thread

    I'm surprised you think I think different wiring reguations apply, as this is not what I said I'm surprised you think your point in any way makes sense or is relevant. A fact is a fact regardless of how many people believe it or choose to not believe. For an example, please research...
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    '17th CU' thread

    If you're putting in a new board, why not put the hot tub on it? No. It needs to be bonded back to the MET, the same as the other bond. Take your guidance from BS7671 and the OSG. A 17th Edition CU won't necessarily comply with 314, but if you arrange the circuits correctly it should do...
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    '17th CU' thread

    I think the correct answer lies in whether you are a DIYer or a professional electrician. I have yet to speak to an electrician who is a membr of any organisation that would agree with BAS (a DIYer). I'm afraid, whether anyone likes it or not, it's a fact. I think it's because of 131.8. It...
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    Circuit design

    One of the problems you might face is should...how shall we say it... a less learned person take a look at the installation for whatever reason, he or she might decide that the Maximum Demand is off the scale - due to overly slavish adherence to the OSG. :)
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    CU change what is the exact standing now under the 17th

    I thought if anyone would understand it, it would be you... :D
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    CU change what is the exact standing now under the 17th

    It's quite simple. Those boys that have sports after lunch, but haven't written a letter home, move your coats to the lower pegs, unless you have a brother in the year above in which case move your coats to the lower peg before lunch and before sports but after you've written your letter...
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    CU change what is the exact standing now under the 17th

    Not a fact I'm afraid. Exactly how 314 is complied with is not mentioned anywhwere in the Regs. The decision, like much of the Regs, rests with the electrician taking into consideration the relevant facts. So the FACT remains that a dual RCD boards can facilitate compliance, but it not a...
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    CU change what is the exact standing now under the 17th

    My argument is quite simple, as is the explanation, justification etc. If you cannot prove that cables are routed to comply with 522.6.6, you have to assume that they aren't and thus 522.6.7 is required. How hard is that? :D
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    CU change what is the exact standing now under the 17th

    I haven't the foggiest why you've mentioned 413 :? If it's a case of opinion, I would say that the opinion of the IET (who publish the Regs, OSG, GNs etc.) and the consumer unit manufactures would be correct and you would be incorrect. IET have even put a nice full colour illustration of...
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