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Start with Ivor stating what the accepted definition of "trickle down" is.

While I disagree with your assessment, as a general principle I'd rather have "inept but well-intentioned" than "inept and corrupt".

That's where tribal voting starts (y)

Reform couldn't run a bath, let alone a local council. As for the country, FML..........

Except for those who do not pay tax, employ anyone, or spend anything beyond the average pleb.

Which means Jack schitt. Although you've recognised so, and have amended it slightly (y)

Bulgarian split squats, and hamstring curls. Just waiting on the ciabatta to come out of the oven now.

What you are describing is the every opposite of trickle down.

No patriots before summer 2025 then (y)

Pattern of behaviour, or seeing what they want to see?

Regardless, as long as there are people on the planet, they will attack each other. Whether that be over land, religion, gender, appearance, money (or lack of), or "just because". As Metallica worded it, "Sad but true".

Must be the Baileys ;-)

I doubt any reformists - those running the clown show in particular - give much of a toss for anyone other than themselves, much less for the welfare of animals.

Have a good one, whatever you're doing (y)

Missed a trick there. Should charge double, and call it a "weight loss retreat" :mrgreen:

Nike for athletic pursuits. I have a couple or three pairs. Adidas Jeans for standing in the pub, or general wandering around. I have four or five pairs of those.

For now (y)

Farage will sell out the UK to whichever arris he wants to stick his tongue up. Once something's sold, you'll be complaining about services going down the sh!tter while the foreign and private owners profit, and you'll still have taxes to complain about.