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It's an entirely rational position, and I'll amend it as you produced evidence to the contrary. That's what rational people do. Well, on this point you are wrong and you've failed to show any rationale to justify this. It is like saying a transistor is the 'wrong tool for the job' because...

The manufacturer appears to think that this product has features which makes it suitable for a particular application. If they think it's worthy of making this distinction - and they are clearly much better positioned than you or I to know specifically what requirements the product was designed...

There are an infinite number of things I didn't say. I made a statement on the basis it hadn't been previously stated, is an undeniable fact, and may potentially be of significance. I am not sure I understand the value of discussing a different statement. Genuine difficulty probably, as what I...

On the basis it hadn't been previously stated, is an undeniable fact, and may potentially be of significance, I was completely oblivious to the fact I was clearly being irrational. Fair enough. Efficiency is a very broad term which can be applied in many different ways. However, in a previous...

What on earth leads you to think it is either? It is a statement. I will make this as simple as I possibly can: The lights you suggest are intended for non-domestic installations. Which part of that do you do you consider is incorrect? The lights you suggest are intended for non-domestic...

I never claimed otherwise. I can't see any reason why you can't use them for domestic use. The manufacturer's positioning is probably a pretty strong hint about the application they are specifically intended for though. The difference is obvious. I bought my Bosch drill because I wanted a...

At the slightest mention of downlighters were are treated to your cut&paste of various light fittings intended for non-domestic installations. I know you sometimes present opinion-as-fact, but I still struggle to see why you maintain these are 'ideal'. The appearance is clearly a personal...

I've seen this quote in a police procedural (either Ian Rankin or Peter James) relating to a cold case review. I'll have the book somewhere, but you can't grep dead trees. That may not be the origin of the quote of course.

Was thinking of a fault current slighter greater than the trip current which was initially shared across the two RCDs. Though you still may not be able to set the RCDs. Didn't give it too much thought...

Earth fault on a neutral shared between the 2 lighting circuits.

Whatever solution you have in the kitchen, it must be capable of 'good functional illumination' and no doubt your down-lighters are. But ideally I would also like my lighting to be efficient, discreet, dimmable with a pleasing colour temperature. Personally I am still veering towards LEDs as a...

If a previous thread, Then, in his own inimitable way, describing somebody who proposes LED downlighters, Then in this thread B-A-S admits that his lighting actually requires 24W/m², whereas the person who installed LED downlighters notes: For an installation requiring 2.3W/m² - 10x...

Actually I think everybody is agreed on the need to avoid halogens. The OP specifically mentioned LED lights and I only mentioned that halogen spots were very popular, not that they were a good idea. Likewise, I don't think that would surprise anybody. Though suplementary task-specific...

It's not just the colour temperature but also the distribution of the light. The down lights I saw gave very even, shadow free illumination. Perfect for a commercial installation, but not very aesthetic in a domestic setting. Pendant lights usually are fitted with shades which significantly...

Ah, BAS, have you actually seen lights like this in use? This light type of light is not intended for domestic applications and is far from 'ideal' in this environment. I recently saw a kitchen where they had been fitted (and was previously considering something similar myself on the basis of...

The back box must be earthed. Where that is achieved satisfactorily from the accessory, I consider it bad practice to introduce superfluous wiring. If the switch does not have a CPC connection, the CPC clearly needs to be terminated on the back box.

I am curious why people consider this best practice. Surely it is rather poor engineering practice to waste time and materials on unnecessary work? Also, I have never come across a situation where a hazard has arisen because of an unearthed back box. However, I have come across numerous...

Does this mean you consider down-lighters fitted with LED bulbs considerably less offensive than halogen downlighters? And also less offensive than a central pendant fitted with an incandescent bulb? This has not been apparent in your numerous comments on this subject. Many people - myself...

Is B-A-S a real person? Based on the almost immediate, standardised and often slightly out of context responses to certain key trigger words ("downlights", "part p", "high integrity" etc) I was convinced 'B-A-S' was merely an evolution of the Unix ELIZA program. I'm not certain he passes the...

I would argue that at worst this relaxation has a neutral impact on safety. As I mentioned, I am not sure what a '400/415V' warning actually contributes to safety. Most warning labels tend to be in place more to avoid litigation rather than as a pragmatic contributor to safety. Removing...