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I mentioned in passing as a possibility. As I said before though, obviously the £12 billion or so saved per year cannot be allocated multiple times, but whichever way you look at it, it's a lot of money to be divided up into savings or support in various areas. Whateveris done with that...

Of course, but you're still ignoring the situation in which Parliament wishes to pass some specific legislation (and it might be legislation which amends or repeals previous legislation), but the rules are that it's the Commission which has to put the proposed legislation before Parliament...

Of course, because Parliament can refuse to pass legislation proposed by the Commission. That's not what's in dispute. O.K., so as Parliament I voted against JohnD being paid a million pounds and you don't get the money. But now I ask you, as the Commission, to send back another proposal...

No, your apparent belief that every time BS7671 changes any installation which no longer complies with the new version in every detail becomes unsafe (except for the one or two specific things for which you make an exception, for some reason). Perhaps you need them explaining to you in the...

If your belief were true, why would there be a C3 code, and why did there used to be a code 4?

Fair point. But perhaps something a little more definite could be provided? Not sure how it would be done though. He works both sides of the border.

Out of curiosity, what is the brief history of RCD requirements in the R.o.I? (When sockets for specific purposes required 100 or 30mA protection, when all required it, etc.).

Unfortunately, I fear that is exactly what will happen, one way or another.

Yes, and we know that in the past you've indicated that your view is that that applies to pretty much every change, i.e. that as soon as a new version of B7671 appears anything to the previous version is now to be considered "not safe enough." But as I've pointed out in the past, if that were...

Tariffs are paid by the importer at the other end. And yes, obviously the £30 million per day or however much is saved can't be spent multiple times, but it's still a lot of money to be divided up to help elsewhere. You think there aren't already Whitehall bureaucrats administering the U.K...

Of course, we don't expect the MEP's to actually draft thelegislation, but you're missing the point. The Commission sends proposed legislation to the Parliament, and in the brief time allowed for discussion Parliament says "O.K., we want to pass this except we don't like that part in...

The removal of a water pipe as an acceptable means of earthing from the 14th edition was due to the increasing use of plastic and the idea that a pipe providing an acceptable earth electrode today could cease to be such tomorrow. The later amended editions of the 13th edition, while permitting...

They key point there being that they are meant to be impartial. But are they really concerned about the U.K. or about European/world finance as a whole? What about the tens of millions of pounds per day it costs the U.K. to be in the EU which could be better spent on the NHS, fixing some of...

Yes, the U.S. requires all U.S. citizens to file income tax returns based on global income regardless of whether they're living in the U.S. or abroad, and regardless of how long they've been out of the United States (and it requires permanent residents of the U.S. who are not citizens to file as...

Yes, but that doesn't automatically mean that something which was considered perfectly acceptable a few years ago but which doesn't comply the current edition has suddenly become any less safe so as to present a potential danger which would warrant a C2.

As here in the U.S. where TN-C-S is the norm and the NEC requires an earth electrode connected to the incoming neutral at every house. If you shove a few feet of metal rod into the ground, it's going to act as an earth electrode whatever you want to call it. That was part of the issue I...

With more and more public money being wasted each time to push how "wonderful" EU membership is and how it would be "disastrous" if the U.K. really were to leave. That's if it doesn't result in a frenzied round of renegotiations, after which he'll claim that the U.K. has won some fantastic...

It reminds me of the sort of thing Sir Humphrey would suggest goes in a report, so that when none of it happens they can say, "We didn't say it would happen, only that if could happen."

I would agree. While adding RCD protection for outdoor use might certainly provide a nice increase in protection, its absence doesn't make the installation potentially dangerous.

Seeing how it would impractical to commute to Birmingham every day, perhaps he could have a second house in Birmingham paid for at taxpayers' expense (including £200 a time to have somebody come in and change a lamp, £5000 landscaping etc.). After all, if certain other people working in...