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That's OK - I'm sure all the people denying that the Tories used the term "austerity" will be pleased to find out the facts.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008%E2%80%932011_Icelandic_financial_crisis#

Fine - then make a resolution to never comment in any threads where you don't know what they're about.

So you think that businesses can only thrive if they are allowed to treat their employees unfairly, to deprive them of any certainty of being given shifts, or to cancel shifts at short notice, to fire-and-rehire... The fault then would lie in how much the pay for work is, not how much benefits...

So a race to the bottom...

No, it isn't. It's moving in the direction of fracture and division and polarisation, in no small part because of ignorance and the credulous consumption of lies on social and popular mass media. No.

Have you ever thought about answering questions even when doing so doesn't make you look good?

Umm... :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

Maybe some truth would help: David Cameron's conference speech in 2009. 11 uses of the word "austerity". The United Kingdom government austerity programme was a fiscal policy that was adopted for a period in the early 21st century following the era of the Great Recession. Coalition and...

Have a word with your chum:

You weren't full of praise for it here: https://www.diynot.com/diy/threads/mandatory-id-cards-brit-card-to-be-announced-tomorrow.650388/ But now you don't like the decision to drop it? Surely you should welcome it.

I "live in a bubble"? No - I'm just someone who reads reputable newspapers, watch reputable news programmes, etc. How about this - over 5 years old: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/oct/22/us-ice-officers-allegedly-used-torture-to-make-africans-sign-own-deportation-orders This one -...

Then surely they can get one, and not claim benefits?

It's all confected. They drag it out when they need something to try and disguise their inability to remain discussing things properly.

No - what on earth makes you think I'm accusing you of that?

Expressing my utter incredulity at someone not having heard of ICE given all the coverage it's had is not "having a go".

My problem is that I am living in a world which is being dismantled piece by piece by people who lie and who exploit ignorance.

Then I would imagine that at least three quarters of the UK population need to wake up and take an interest. ICE has been in the news over and over again for quite some time. Stop being someone trying to defend ignorance.

I was, still am, utterly amazed that someone could not have heard of ICE. I did, still do, find it mind-boggling beyond belief.

We can all pay attention to the news - you know, read reliable newspapers, watch reliable TV stations, listen to reliable radio stations. We can all adopt the mindset that if we don't know something and somebody else does, it is not they who merit criticism.