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I'm armed and ready! Here are my plans, I created them using AutoCAD.

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I know you did but I'm hesistant as builders umm and arrr and the council are the same... I'm going to get a proper to scale plan and I'll see... No use messing about without having the exact measurements, etc. I can see that this is more precise than I originally thought. :-D

Thanks!!! So I may not need to drop the ceiling then or even need joist hangers? I'm going to make a proper plan to scale..

Thanks Tony, do you have any documentation or anything which can support that because I want to have some sort of explaination to show if the council get involved at some point. Antony

Hopefully, you cansee what i mean now! :-D

This is more like it. I forgot to draw the birdsmouth.

Hang on a sec. I've not drawn the image correctly. :-(

Hi Tony, I can't sit the new joist on the top of the wall plate because the triange is way too large. It wouldn't be a case of cutting a small triangle out of it. I'd have to cut a huge triangle out of it. Here's a pic which is to scale and you can see what I mean. Red is the wall plate...

Thanks Tony, The wall plate is in the inside. The sheer stress would be very high in my case because the pitch is almost 40 degrees. Of the 7" height of the new joist, there would only be a 4" bearing and at no point of that bearing would it hold the full 7" height, it would hold only 4"...

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Right, ok, I've had a really good look up there. Thankfully, it is quite normal. There is a wall plate and there is a birds mouth in the rafters. The reason I couldn't see it was because there was a brick filler and you can't actually see the wall plate without first knocking some of the...

I'll have another look tomorrow... I couldn't see any bird's mouths but then again, the birds are the other side of the roof. Lol, joking, there are no birds mouths that I could see and the rafters seem to shoot straight off the wall plate! Although, I'll admit, it doesn't sound right! The...

Well the wallplate is 4" wide/deep and the angle of the roof seems to be about 45 degrees - straight off the wall plate. So I'd need to cut right from the very end of the joist. Pretty much, a 7" x 7" triangle would need to be cut out of the joist. I think maybe its a bit much because only 4"...

Thanks... There isn't enough space between the wall plate and roof to fit anything in. :-( Surely, most people have this issue no?

Hello everyone! I'm planning to redo the floor of the loft so that I get the first step of a loft conversion done. I've worked out using Trada tables that I need 7" x 2" joists but the issue is, when I try to put them into place on top of the wall plate, the top corner of the joist knocks...