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thanks dave,just to check is this the valve with the arm that switches between auto and manual cheers steve

all i can suggest then is to have your dish pointed to 13E and subscribe to sky italia it is the cheapest option

valve and all external controls seem to be ok,the pump is still running when the boiler is turned off also when you turn the boiler back on it fires up and starts to heat the water cheers steve

thanks for reply but can you be a bit more specific cheers steve

if you goole c/s this will open your eyes to a whole new, and much cheaper world,sorry but due to certain constaints i cannot expand anymore on this in this forum

hi all i have an icsos he24 that when turned on from the front panel the boiler fires up and begins to heat the water ( with h/w control in off position )the only way to stop it , is to turn the boiler off by the switch, also the pump is running all the time the only way to stop it is to turn...