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Sorry, but if I could just pick your brains a little more... does lowering the trap level give a better force/push (lost for terminology) of the water?

Thanks for your suggestions, looking at it a P trap would be good, but to get to the horrizontal flow further down would mean removing part of the tiled boxing....a 2 min job aye..ha. I might leave this for when I am inspired to take part part of the boxing apart and maybe incorparate some...

Do most these traps in-corporate a overflow connection, guess Im looking for a easy fit, to my limited access. or I am just being to fussy.. :D

fair point, it drains ok with a low pressured shower, but when cranked up not so good. When there is a couple of inches of water in there, a quick plunge seems to get a good whirl pool drainage affect.

This shoes the overflow coming in here It seems that the pipe is almost in line withe the bath plug, before it shoots off down! Lowering this point is my only way to get things flowing right?? bit tricky though when boxed in with glued elbow joints.... The old saying..if your gonna do a...

Good plumbing for a new build hu?? :? conects on horrizontal pipe, same as bath waste as in first pic,

Cheers for the confirmation. I dont have my small level handy and bye eye it looks level and if not then more heading up hill, I enclosed this photo showing the run further down, 2 elbows, and heading down drastically. ( a gradual slope down would be better right?)

Hi there, After inspecting our (new) bath/shower plumbing, as the usual shower consists of standing in 2 inches of water, this is what I discovered. (there were no blockages in the reachable parts) Any comments weather this particular trap could be causing the slow drainage or could it be a...

Questionable trap.