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They're beautiful creatures aren't they. I loved watching that ... thanks pred. It restores your faith in human nature.

:P Go for it you pair ... you want me to look away. Seriously... life's too short for bickering about how we'll all end it.

I'm popping my head above the parapet here ... but here goes! Anyone feel free to shoot away! I could be wrong but I thought some of those medieval Islamic countries you mentioned were actually rather advanced civilizations at one time ... way ahead of us in the west. It's their religions...

I'm not ducking it. I just got fed up of clever dicks twisting what I say ... but you've asked a fair question and out of genuine interest. True, I've said everyone has the right to choose to smoke. But that's based on their own educated choice ... as in first they have to be old enough to...

Me? Nothing. I've given up. Do you want it adding to the list? Time for a few new additions. So far we have .. smoking ... Is Unhealthy A disgusting vice rampant in the thick underclass. Corrupts youngsters Is a burden on the NHS Is Killing through secondhand smoke. Results in...

I can smell .. :P I'll rephrase that! I can smell Bold ... would I smell Persil then instead if I stopped smoking? Seriously .. I get your point. The pubs now smell of flaulence, stale bear and sweat. What a non-smoker would be doing inside my wardrobe is another subject for a more saucy...

Nope .. I reckon I covered that one. Surely it's the thick underclasses perogative? :wink:

This is a trick question isn't it? You just trying to find out how much washing powder I get through.

:P I'll let you know if I spot any tumescent growths sprouting in my nether regions.

I have to admit the weight of evidence to back it up is getting rather impressive. So far we have .. smoking ... Is Unhealthy A disgusting vice rampant in the thick underclass. Corrupts youngsters Is a burden on the NHS Is Killing through secondhand smoke. Results in obstructing smoke...

Fact of the matter is there's a few on here who just hate smokers. Full stop. Now I might be daft ... but I'm not daft enough to set myself up as public whipping post... well ... I do so therefore I am actually... but eventually the penny has dropped. :wink:

Hallelujah! An admission that not only smokers foul the air! And guess what? I have heard of catalytic converters. After recognizing a major health problem caused by exhaust it was decided to clean up the air. :roll: Catalytic converters reduce pollution ... they do not totally eradicate it...

You're not really expecting a sensible reply to that ridiculous post are you? Are the anti-smoking brigade down to complaining about fag butts on the pavement. ... when ... 'was driving on the dual carriageway and stopped at the traffic lights,' ... this is a car that doesn't chug out any...

Crikey ... I was going to answer until I scrolled down and saw the discussion had effectively ended. Add to that a few other threads I've read and I'm thinking much as I love a good discussion (even one that gets a little heated) ... you probably stray a bit out of my comfort zone here and I'd...

Tolerant people? Like you, you mean? Anyone reading your post can see you seeth with anti-smoking fervour. Not to mention some of the insults that have been directed at smokers in this thread. I'm trying to be objective about this ... unlike you. 1) With the smoking bans now in place the...

In a word. Revenue. Which still outstrips the burden on the NHS for smoking related diseases. (I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong on that one.) I'll get my shamefaced apology in now :oops: just incase.

Now why didn't I think of doing that! :roll: Plain thick that's what I am ... must be the fags :P Hee ..hee ... I like your droll wit doitall

Flippin heck ... thank god David Cameron and Nick Clegg have quit! And Barak Obama, though he's a bit dicey and still allegedly cadges cigarettes off his aides.

Cooee! Are you answering my earlier question as well as Aron, JohnD? I gather from you last few posts that what you call discouraging means you ARE actually fully in favour of measures to control and limit. But only smokers. Thanks for clearing that up. As I said previously somewhere in...

Okay JohnD ... just incase I've been reading your posts incorrectly. You say it's about discouraging kids and not ordering and controlling. You say you say no ban. I take it then that you're happy with the measures the goverment have so far introduced? Though if 'hidden' ciggie counters...