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kisses all round for you :D :D :D i will runn off to get some to day xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ty

yer ill smash em and think of the old man hahahhhhhhhhhhhhh very satisfieing

must quote to you all i am a woman and dont understand all the jargon words :( lol just cos im a woman please dont say what do you expect. :)

the screws hold the unit directly on the wall. the lights need to be lush to the wall, this is why cant insert a screw first and lift the uplighter on as there will be a gap behind them. :roll:

thanks in all ur replies, i cant put screws in first as i have one horizonal and one vertical place for screws, oh this is doing my head in, i need a miniture electirc screwdriver, although i have a driver that folds in half, still no good :oops:

i have 2 wall up lighters that i cant get the screws to screw in the wall as there is no space to get a screwdriver in there, i also have a snake screwdriver but there seems to be no pressure there for tightening the screws, i cant find a small screw driver to fit as i cant graps it,any ideas...