ha . punch is deadly!!! ive been karate since i was 8 (i'm almot 30) and am about 16 stone (100ish kg i think), and dabbled in a few years of boxing, a few years in tae kwon do, a few years of jiu jitsu... and been doing MMA/BJJ and muay thai lately..... plus 'used' to train 6 times a week...