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  1. hillsrob

    Is downlight replacement notifiable work?

    When I watch some of these YouTube videos with panels of electricians discussing photos of various horrors (2 half penny pieces, screws and 2 chunky cables feeding a car charging point for example) I have to laugh at the farcical situation that self regulation has come to this. The law aims to...
  2. hillsrob

    Is downlight replacement notifiable work?

    Reply back from contractor. As you anticipated no specific paragraphs cited: The fire rated downlights that we would order will fit as required. I’m afraid I don’t have the exact exert from the regs that you are asking for to hand but if you wish to look into this further please do so and...
  3. hillsrob

    Is downlight replacement notifiable work?

    I called South Gloucestershire Building Control and they were very helpful. They are going to get the surveyor to get in touch and also forward the EICR from 5 years ago which they should have on file.
  4. hillsrob

    Is downlight replacement notifiable work?

    I have emailed the following queries: Before you order the parts please can you let me know the specification of the downlights you plan to order as there isn't much clearance between the floors. I think they are only 5 or maybe 6 inch joists. Fire rated downlights are usually quite long and...
  5. hillsrob

    Is downlight replacement notifiable work?

    He's probably sitting back and enjoying the discussion. :p
  6. hillsrob

    Is downlight replacement notifiable work?

    This video summarises your arguments very well:
  7. hillsrob

    Is downlight replacement notifiable work?

    That big hole got me thinking. There are no fire doors upstairs and 11 of the 23 downlights are in the front room which has the stairs in it.
  8. hillsrob

    Is downlight replacement notifiable work?

    That's certainly interesting. It may turn out that the buyer will go to completion and forget about the EICR. I haven't received a date for the work to be done so I still have options. I do appreciate the effort you've put into this. My son in law has an NICEIC registered business and even he...
  9. hillsrob

    Is downlight replacement notifiable work?

    Thanks for all your help and advice which I've taken on board. The bottom line is we agree that the contractor is being over zealous but I have to remember that my target is to hand the buyer, that has taken 2 months to line up, a satisfactory EICR. I could try another company and hope for a...
  10. hillsrob

    Is downlight replacement notifiable work?

    So here is the reply from the contractor: I understand why you are asking the question and I can’t pass comment on what was previously passed as the regulations haven’t changed for some time. As the rooms above the ground floor ceiling have sleeping and living quarters – any penetrations to...
  11. hillsrob

    Is downlight replacement notifiable work?

    No. I'm told there was thatch once but I have photos going back 100 years or more and the roof was lower then but still clay tiles. Hopefully tomorrow will bring some justification for the coding. They might just back down and issue an EICR with only C3s.
  12. hillsrob

    Is downlight replacement notifiable work?

    The problem with that is that it has been totally refurbished. It's a 200 year old cottage and I've spent the last 13 years working on it. With hindsight I would have fitted fire-rated downlights but hindsight is a wonderful thing.
  13. hillsrob

    Is downlight replacement notifiable work?

    You are right John but at this point I have an almost clean certificate to give the buyer. One or two C3s seem to be par for the course. I'm sure they could find more if they looked closely. Persuading them that the downlights are not a violation would be the best outcome. If they won't back...
  14. hillsrob

    Is downlight replacement notifiable work?

    I have used this company once before for a flat that I wanted to rent out. There seems to be a pattern developing. The full EICR is held back and only the non compliances are communicated with a quote for their rectification. Finally an ammended EICR is issued with the final bill. I will ask for...
  15. hillsrob

    Is downlight replacement notifiable work?

    I perhaps didn't explain very well but I've now had an email with a summary of the report and the only C2 is the ground floor non-fire rated downlights. There are one or two C3s. So in the tester's mind they are a failure. I've emailed back to say they passed building control in 2016 so what...
  16. hillsrob

    Is downlight replacement notifiable work?

    While the market is currently quite buoyant it may not stay that way for long. Sale progress is however very slow. I received the current offer over 8 weeks ago and we are just about to exchange contracts. I just need this EICR to get it over the line. If I fit the downlights myself and get the...
  17. hillsrob

    Is downlight replacement notifiable work?

    Just as I thought the C2 is for non-fire rated downlights on the ground floor. I have emailed back to say they were signed off by South Gloucestershire Building Control in 2016 and asked if the regulations have changed since then. There are also one or two C3s but I won't know the details till...
  18. hillsrob

    Is downlight replacement notifiable work?

    It's a 3 bedroom terraced house. NAPIT classify non-fire rated downlights below a bedroom as C2. I should get the report back today.
  19. hillsrob

    Is downlight replacement notifiable work?

    I tend to agree. I provided the last report that was dated August 2015. It recommended re-inspection in 2020. Obviously I want the sale to go through. As it's now a fail I feel obliged to either forward the report or have the remedial work done. They are otherwise happy with their Homebuyers Survey.
  20. hillsrob

    Is downlight replacement notifiable work?

    I'm anticipating an EICR category C2 because the downlights in my house are not fire rated. I rewired the house myself under building control and the installation was passed as 'satisfactory' by the council appointed electrician who noted the shortcoming as a C3. 5 years later I am about to...
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