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Thanks, I will see what I can put together in the next few days and get back to you. I was originally from Oxon , then Bucks , moved here 2 years ago , the locals here say that the Norfolk folk are all hill billy cousins , but the locals here are known as Yellowbellies and call everyone Duck...

Yes , I know what you mean, A first aider once splinted a broken forearm to the patients side (Hip and thigh) then walked the patient down stairs to await our arrival , we were greeted with these words "I've' splinted his arm but the sissy screamed all the way down the stairs, I don't know why...

Thanks for all the input, I guess I will have to "Consult the experts " and fork out on a suitably recommended beam :( I have done 30 years on the Ambulance service and can see from this forum that a strange sense of humour and a dislike of medling amatures is not only in the medical...

I have acquired two 3"x3"x13' RSJ's , if put side by side in a solid brick (no cavity) wall to support over a 8' span (patio door) would they do the job and would they meet any regs that are out there? They were originally used as a base to move a machine on so I don't know if they are...