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    Reverse convection flow in wood-burner

    That's pretty much what I've got made up. That's the easy bit! Crawling around in the roof among glass-fibre insulation, draining down, adding and lagging new pipes, putting in the pump and wiring ... that's the hard bit! I wish someone would design a pump with sufficient free flow area...
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    Reverse convection flow in wood-burner

    The answer to your "did I get it sorted?" question is "yes and no". My problem was that if I had a hot thermal store, but allowed the stove to go out, then relighting the stove sucked hot water down the pipe to the stove causing convection to stall and - effectively - reverse. I avoided...
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    Wood burning stove

    So what do you do about the sludge? Pressure flush?
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    Wood burning stove

    Nice image - yes, exactly like that, I should really have drawn it in the first place but I was being lazy.
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    Wood burning stove

    There are no valves on the Aga (which is a totally separate system), there are also no valves on the pipes between stove and heat store. It would, I agree, contravene building regs to have a valve in a pipe from an uncontrolled heat source. There is indeed a motorised valve on the pipe...
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    Wood burning stove

    I'm surprised it was so slow. My chainsaw is 2-stroke, 18" bar, and so long as the chain is sharp it makes short work of logs up to about 14" diameter. The key is "sharp". Perhaps he needs to invest in a sharpening file - I think it might revolutionise his life. I have to sharpen my saw...
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    Wood burning stove

    How is it dangerous? It's an open vented system, so it can't build up any pressure and explode, and it has a mechanism for dumping excess heat. And how on earth can it not comply with water bye-laws? There is no direct connection between the CH system and the domestic hot or cold water...
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    Wood burning stove

    Seasoned and split wood ready for burning around here was at least £100/ton delivered last winter although, as you say, it is difficult to relate volume to weight since what you get is a "load". I should think it is more this winter, although I haven't tried to buy any. I've read elsewhere...
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    Wood burning stove

    I think the concept is definitely the right way to mix multiple heat sources, I just object to the cost of the turn-key systems. Over £1000 for a "heat store" is silly money. Also the lack of sensible and/or sensibly priced control systems: I built my own for a grand total of £50, of...
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    Wood burning stove

    We have an oil-fired Aga that heats the domestic HW cylinder via an indirect coil. The CH system also has a (second) indirect coil in the same cylinder, so the wood-burner can be used to heat domestic HW via the CH piping and pump. Incidentally the domestic HW cylinder is not the same as...
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    Wood burning stove

    Sorry, a bit slow to see this thread. I have successfully plumbed a wood-burner with a back (and top, and sides) boiler into our existing oil-fired central heating system. The existing CH system was open and vented, stop here if yours is not! It was done as follows: Install a heat...
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    Reverse convection flow in wood-burner

    I got the impression it was in the roof. More to the point his plumber was still puzzled after 10 days and, as far as I can see, there was no resolution of the problem. I prefer valves giving positive control of flow. Perhaps we need to write that mythical text-book on the subject!
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    Reverse convection flow in wood-burner

    Well I could only start from where I was at and yes, I've got a hybrid system ... which is exactly what I wanted. I've added two valves: one to isolate the oil-fired boiler and one to isolate the heat store. Hardly complex! Compare my diagram with the Dunsley one...
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    Reverse convection flow in wood-burner

    I'd figured that out for myself! A pipe to the outside world fits the bill. That occurred to me when I read your post last night. I had assumed that two vents would be enough, but I hadn't considered the freezing aspect of the matter. You've convinced me: we're going to install a pressure...
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    Reverse convection flow in wood-burner

    No shooting on my part. I think the Dunsley neutraliser is a good solution for boosting a CH system from a relatively small stove, but I believe it would be trickier to use it for a fully pumped system taking heat from a large wood-burner for all the reasons I gave. Remember that my...
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    Reverse convection flow in wood-burner

    But if the feed/expansion tank is frozen (a near certainty in that scenario) where's that cold water going to come from??? (And the displaced hot go to?) I suppose the simplest solution would be to make it a total loss failure mode and vent to the outside of the house, making sure there are...
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    Reverse convection flow in wood-burner

    In the end we didn't. When designing the system I was worried that I didn't have a significant heat leak in the system, so I decided that I wanted a heat dump radiator on the 1st floor of the house working by gravity since the real danger condition is during a power cut when the...
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    Reverse convection flow in wood-burner

    Well, short of a colostomy it seems I'm in trouble then... The control system - obviously - has no effect on the running of the wood-burner itself - how could it? It is there to *respond* to how the wood-burner behaves, and to mix'n'match its output to the demands from the house and the...
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    Reverse convection flow in wood-burner

    I'll have a look at the Dunsley site for inspiration - thanks. The controller took 3 weekends to design and make, and another w/e to wire into the existing rats-nest of wiring. I tend to go rather slowly and carefully when dealing with 240v AC! It cost about £70 for the bits of which the box...
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    Reverse convection flow in wood-burner

    True, although most of the time the temperature differential in the heat store is quite large - typically > 20 deg C - and it's not a problem. I think I have three possible solutions: (1) an injection tee + pump on the flow circuit from the stove, triggered either manually or by a high...
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