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Thanks for the replys No air vent but is a drain other side of valve so will put valve in mid position tomoz and put pipe in bucket and be careful not to let air in,

It is set to 62 deg usually i just checked as it was on 55 i might of knocked it earlier,

Have a problem with hot water only that is doing my head in Gushing gurgling from hot water only, put ch on perfect no noise, The water heats up ok but bloody wakes me up! Its a 2 pipe system y plan vented, potterton suprima 60,grundfos alpha pump,(done same noise with old myson pump)...

had lockout problem recently on suprima 60 as it was on its second card,i thought i would look at old card for dry joints ,as in both cases of problem both being the same ie thermostat calls for heat, pump kicks in then boiler fires up ,apart from boiler does not fire up then locks out, now this...