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No offence! I always have fun in matching red to brown and blue to black -- why did they change the standard? I will borrow a DMM on Sun hopefully and get a better idea; if there is a voltage drop I will have to sort it out eventually. For connections, would I be better off with 'crimp'...

No definately no starter, and it confirms this in the instructions (says this has an electronic ballast and does not require a starter switch). They are nice new lights, I only bought them 1 week ago from B&Q Eterna Model EB1X58 www.eterna-lighting.co.uk

I would if I could, but no digi camera! I guess I can live with it, it just seems bizzarre. When I decorate the upstairs room I will lift the floorboards and have a good look at what was done before I got the house. Thanks for listening anyway Gary

They do not have starters. One of the lights is a simple spur off the other (or appears to be) The other is a bit of a mess - I just resused the existing connections. There are several red wires all fed together into a terminal block, there are foor black wires into the terminal block...

In the kitchen, they are the only lights from the switch and are two separate single fittings. I replaced the fittings, not just the tubes. My electical screwdriver barely lights up when applied to the live circuit, but is quite live at the wall switch, if that helps?

Hi, I recently replaced two very old fluorescent tube fittings with modern variety (much thinner) - the old ones always 'hummed'. These work fine, however I often need to switch the light switch on a few times to get them to start, and sometimes only one of the will start. Do they need a...