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    To cut or not to cut? - that is the question...

    Ta. may have posted twice as i don't know how to use a computer either. Hmmm... okay, the high beam sits on those joists, which all sit on the wall. That wall in the bedroom below has some decorative archi-thingy on the ceiling. Assume I have to come in a good 15-20cm+ from that loft big...
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    To cut or not to cut? - that is the question...

    Thanks for that. Yes, some of the arcs on the packaging of the ladders and shows how some of them afix. If I can't get 70-80cm back retracted ladders, they will have to retract in the direction of the green arrow (rather than the yellow arrow). Is that beam is gonna get in the way and I am...
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    To cut or not to cut? - that is the question...

    Thanks. Will consider all that. I do notice there is step up from the joists connected to the ceiling to the a main beam that we are standing on. Is this going to get in the way of the ladder retracting - if they don't go up towards the wall (yellow arrow) but instead go up the other way...
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    To cut or not to cut? - that is the question...

    Ta. But any reason I need to double up hatch hole surrounding joists? I thought there was only a single similar joist needed to surround the hatch hole as per https://www.diydata.com/carpentry/loft-hatch/loft-hatch.php?
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    To cut or not to cut? - that is the question...

    Ta. So if I have 70-80cm behind the hatch to the structural wall, could I just fit the ladders and push them back - and they will just hit the wall and stop there, or does the locking mechanism absolutely need to be able to go all the way back in order to be securely retracted and in order for...
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    To cut or not to cut? - that is the question...

    https://www.roofwindows4you.co.uk/product-category/loft-ladders/scissor-loft-ladders/ Bit cheaper here... https://www.laddersandscaffoldtowers.co.uk/acatalog/Concertina-Loft-Ladders.html ...but no handle and not substantial as want to lug flooring things up there Seems like telescopic is out...
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    To cut or not to cut? - that is the question...

    Hi, I think u giving great info here, but I am bit of a ficko' to understand it. The bedroom below is 255cm in height. Think you're saying I would need 5 section ladder and that will not work? Not sure how that effects the hatch opening size. Anyways, if I trim up the joints would I...
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    To cut or not to cut? - that is the question...

    Thanks. Its a totally new hole - the other loft hole is in a different inconvenient space. Yes its an old 1940s semi and probs unfelted. I think the ceiling is plasterboard but not sure if I can tell easily as quite dirty. Not sure if L&P have to do something when cutting through it? Will just...
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    To cut or not to cut? - that is the question...

    Thanks. Spotted this which you think is a reasonable guide?: https://www.diydata.com/carpentry/loft-hatch/loft-hatch.php I guess I use normal untreated soft woods in order to support and trim up the joist? Was heading in the direction of creating my own hatch cover if I need about 80-85cm sq...
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    To cut or not to cut? - that is the question...

    Hiya, someone has probably asked this question somewhere, but darned if I can find it when I need it. Want to cut out a loft hatch hole in a new place on the ceiling to make it easier to access the loft. Basically, can I cut this timber (think its a joist maybe) and so I can make the hole...
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    Newbie flame lockout query: Vailant Turbomax VUW 242 E or 282 E Boiler

    Hi, new here. Panicked as have an issue with my trusty Vailant Turbomax VUW 242 E or 282 E Boiler. It sometimes goes into flame lockout after central heating is run for some time and central heating stops. As it goes through normal start up cycle I notice the lockout fame light coming on...
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