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could this be my wiring centre on programmer what i have read it could be

so all good now i have got all working now power comes from a fused spure on wall under thermostat which turns off all systems

sorry got it wrong my bad sorry been a long day he wired it into the fuse switch which controlees the programmer etc

It on a a fuse switch when I turn that switch off it power of the whole lot programmer and all

Can I ask why the heating is all off now and works when I power the thermostat

i have managed to power the thermostat via a wire connected to a plug done by a friend but thye heating seems to be on all time

3 wires go to the boiler I have looked in the programmer an the grey neutral is connected aswell don't no if that helps

This is what at other end

Good morning right I have looked at my isolated switch near boiler an the grey wire is connected up so looks like it possible to wire smart one up

so what do you mean by this sorry for questions

what you mean i cant use that that s how i turn on my heating

i have a internal programmer next to the thermostat

the house is 12 years old

valliant ecotec pro 28

if it help the boiler is a valliant ecotec pro 28

yes combi boiler

yes it works but just trying to update it to more modern one

i understand i could run a power plug designed for something like this to give it power https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B09TPJS5MS/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_3?smid=A151HA45N9AR70&psc=1