ICE told to get the eff out

IC E went there because Trumpf believed social media commentary about Somallis. Then invented facts to justify an observers killing.
 
When I first viewed the footage, I thought the ICE agent they were referring to was the one standing beside the drivers door. At that point I wasn't buying the rationale for their actions. However when I then realised there was an ICE agent standing in front of the vehicle pointing a gun at the windscreen, my firmer initial stance changed slightly. Not in a way that asserts I condone their actions, more the fact if you have an armed officer shouting at you to stop, self preservation suggests you should do so.

Very sad situation all round.
 
When I first viewed the footage, I thought the ICE agent they were referring to was the one standing beside the drivers door. At that point I wasn't buying the rationale for their actions. However when I then realised there was an ICE agent standing in front of the vehicle pointing a gun at the windscreen, my firmer initial stance changed slightly. Not in a way that asserts I condone their actions, more the fact if you have an armed officer shouting at you to stop, self preservation suggests you should do so.

Very sad situation all round.
The problem with looking at it that way is that the US police don't exactly have a great reputation when it comes to using their guns...

Self preservation could also mean the desire to get the hell away from the situation would kick in...

Because the cop would quite likely shoot anyway!
 
However when I then realised there was an ICE agent standing in front of the vehicle pointing a gun at the windscreen, my firmer initial stance changed slightly. Not in a way that asserts I condone their actions, more the fact if you have an armed officer shouting at you to stop, self preservation suggests you should do so.

I agree, likewise - I didn't spot the agent, in front of the vehicle, on first viewing the footage. A unfortunate decision on her part, to attempt to drive off, and risk running him over.
 
What is really telling is how far politics has fallen in the US...

But I guess when you have the orange rapist in charge spouting off at will, then hearing the mayor of Minneapolis telling a government agency to 'get the f*ck out of town' comes as no surprise!
 
If they tell you to stop blocking the road and move your car, should you move your car?

ICE agents are not police. They are Musk's unregulated militia.

What incident are you looking at John?, in the one I've seen footage of, the agents can be clearly heard shouting 'Get out of the car'.
 
Great analysis from several angles in the NY Times. The agent was never in danger. He seemed to lose his rag and shoot. Then they prevent a doctor from giving medical assistance.
 
It is pretty obvious that they didn't mean to kill her, an unfortunate incident that is a tragic event but not that common.
 
From the BBC...

Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem says an ICE officer was struck by the SUV and received treatment in hospital before being released

I sounds like George Floyd all over again.
 
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