87 year old stabbed to death?!?

[diy_fun_uk]

They're complaining. Even asylum seekers have the right to complain, although not in your world, it seems.

If or when there is an investigation into their complaints, I will indeed present it to you.

If I had genuinely just escaped a horrific situation in a war torn country and was given shelter, as long as said shelter was reasonably clean, safe and basic meals provided, I'd be grateful. Not complaining. Chr1st, we have people that PAY to go on holiday to bargain basement places like Pontins, many of which are far from 2,3,4,5 star.

No doubt those we give shelter to, if put in these places, would find cause to complain. Maybe about the pool being too cold or the go-karts not working properly.

 

[ellal]

Could those ranting about 'immigrants' and 'foreigners' just have jumped the gun as usual?

"A man has appeared in court charged with the murder of a grandfather stabbed while riding a mobility scooter in west London.
Thomas O'Halloran, 87, died at the scene on Cayton Road, Greenford, after being attacked just after 16:00 BST on Tuesday.
Lee Byer, 44, of Southall, west London, was remanded in custody at Willesden Magistrates' Court."

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Could those ranting about 'immigrants' and 'foreigners' just have jumped the gun as usual?

"A man has appeared in court charged with the murder of a grandfather stabbed while riding a mobility scooter in west London.
Thomas O'Halloran, 87, died at the scene on Cayton Road, Greenford, after being attacked just after 16:00 BST on Tuesday.
Lee Byer, 44, of Southall, west London, was remanded in custody at Willesden Magistrates' Court."

Yeah but......

 

[Pat ex]

If I had genuinely just escaped a horrific situation in a war torn country and was given shelter, as long as said shelter was reasonably clean, safe and basic meals provided, I'd be grateful. Not complaining. Chr1st, we have people that PAY to go on holiday to bargain basement places like Pontins, many of which are far from 2,3,4,5 star.

No doubt those we give shelter to, if put in these places, would find cause to complain. Maybe about the pool being too cold or the go-karts not working properly.

Apart from they haven't 'just' escaped from a war-torn country, they've been on the road for God knows how long, what does asylum seekers complaining about their accommodation have to do with your rant intentionally conflating violent criminals with asylum seekers.

NB, there's no question mark needed in a rhetorical question.

 

[JP_]

If I had genuinely just escaped a horrific situation in a war torn country and was given shelter, as long as said shelter was reasonably clean, safe and basic meals provided, I'd be grateful. Not complaining.

How long for? What if you thought you'd eventually be free to try to start a new life, but in reality, you were separated from your partner and children, and locked up indefinitely with no indication of when a decision will be made? You'd just sit quietly and accept your fate?

 

[diy_fun_uk]

Apart from they haven't 'just' escaped from a war-torn country, they've been on the road for God knows how long, what does asylum seekers complaining about their accommodation have to do with your rant intentionally conflating violent criminals with asylum seekers.

NB, there's no question mark needed in a rhetorical question.

Exactly. Instead of remaining in whatever previous country was offering them shelter, they keep on trucking and boating until they reach soft touch Britain.

 

[diy_fun_uk]

How long for? What if you thought you'd eventually be free to try to start a new life, but in reality, you were separated from your partner and children, and locked up indefinitely with no indication of when a decision will be made? You'd just sit quietly and accept your fate?

Eh? You mean the wife and kids they more often than not leave behind?

 

[JP_]

until they reach soft touch Britain.

Now that is the tabloids talking. Britain, soft touch? Are you really sure about that?!?!

 

[Pat ex]

Exactly. Instead of remaining in whatever previous country was offering them shelter, they keep on trucking and boating until they reach soft touch Britain.

I think it was Notch 7 that disproved that particular bit of right-wing dog whistle nonsense.
Asylum seekers are free to apply for asylum in which ever country they choose, and it's absolutely natural for them to try and link up with friends and relatives, or to apply in the country where they can already speak some of the language.

 

[JP_]

I think it was Notch 7 that disproved that particular bit of right-wing dog whistle nonsense.
Asylum seekers are free to apply for asylum in which ever country they choose, and it's absolutely natural for them to try and link up with friends and relatives, or to apply in the country where they can already speak some of the language.

Or, more importantly, not seek asylum in a country that will persecute them.

And as we have said about a gadzillion times before - most asylum seekers and immigrants go to other European countries. We get the smallest number, yet people still moan.

Some stats for asylum seekers:

72% hosted in neighbouring countries
83% hosted in low- and middle-income countries (that's not the UK, yet)
486,800 refugees returned or were resettled
36.5 million are children
1.5 million children were born as refugees

Those last figures must surely stir some emotion in even the most radical anti-immigrant.
36.5 million children - do you think they are all trying to exploit you and your country?

https://www.unhcr.org/refugee-statistics/

Refugee population - Country rankings​

Countries	Refugee population, 2021	Global rank	Available data
Turkey	3759817	1	1960 - 2021
Jordan	3047612	2	1960 - 2021
Palestine	2400208	3	1960 - 2021
Uganda	1529903	4	1961 - 2021
Pakistan	1491070	5	1979 - 2021
Lebanon	1328541	6	1960 - 2021
Germany	1255694	7	1960 - 2021
Sudan	1103918	8	1967 - 2021
Bangladesh	918907	9	1978 - 2021
Ethiopia	821283	10	1968 - 2021
Iran	798343	11	1962 - 2021
Syria	589542	12	1960 - 2021
Chad	555782	13	1992 - 2021
DR Congo	524148	14	1960 - 2021
France	499914	15	1960 - 2021
Kenya	481048	16	1970 - 2021
Cameroon	457269	17	1970 - 2021
USA	339179	18	1960 - 2021
China	303436	19	1966 - 2021
Egypt	280686	20	1964 - 2021
Iraq	280072	21	1979 - 2021
Niger	249945	22	1977 - 2021
Sweden	240854	23	1960 - 2021
India	212413	24	1964 - 2021
Tanzania	207101	25	1961 - 2021
Austria	152514	26	1960 - 2021
Italy	144862	27	1960 - 2021
UK	137078	28	1960 - 2021

Refugee population by country, around the world | TheGlobalEconomy.com

The average for 2022 based on 158 countries was 221467 refugees. The highest value was in Turkey: 3568259 refugees and the lowest value was in Fiji: 5 refugees. The indicator is available from 1960 to 2022. Below is a chart for all countries where data are available.

www.theglobaleconomy.com

Poland probably now sits in the top 3.

 

[noseall]

Or, more importantly, not seek asylum in a country that will persecute them.

And as we have said about a gadzillion times before - most asylum seekers and immigrants go to other European countries. We get the smallest number, yet people still moan.

Some stats for asylum seekers:

72% hosted in neighbouring countries
83% hosted in low- and middle-income countries (that's not the UK, yet)
486,800 refugees returned or were resettled
36.5 million are children
1.5 million children were born as refugees

Those last figures must surely stir some emotion in even the most radical anti-immigrant.
36.5 million children - do you think they are all trying to exploit you and your country?

https://www.unhcr.org/refugee-statistics/

Refugee population - Country rankings​

Countries	Refugee population, 2021	Global rank	Available data
Turkey	3759817	1	1960 - 2021
Jordan	3047612	2	1960 - 2021
Palestine	2400208	3	1960 - 2021
Uganda	1529903	4	1961 - 2021
Pakistan	1491070	5	1979 - 2021
Lebanon	1328541	6	1960 - 2021
Germany	1255694	7	1960 - 2021
Sudan	1103918	8	1967 - 2021
Bangladesh	918907	9	1978 - 2021
Ethiopia	821283	10	1968 - 2021
Iran	798343	11	1962 - 2021
Syria	589542	12	1960 - 2021
Chad	555782	13	1992 - 2021
DR Congo	524148	14	1960 - 2021
France	499914	15	1960 - 2021
Kenya	481048	16	1970 - 2021
Cameroon	457269	17	1970 - 2021
USA	339179	18	1960 - 2021
China	303436	19	1966 - 2021
Egypt	280686	20	1964 - 2021
Iraq	280072	21	1979 - 2021
Niger	249945	22	1977 - 2021
Sweden	240854	23	1960 - 2021
India	212413	24	1964 - 2021
Tanzania	207101	25	1961 - 2021
Austria	152514	26	1960 - 2021
Italy	144862	27	1960 - 2021
UK	137078	28	1960 - 2021

Refugee population by country, around the world | TheGlobalEconomy.com

The average for 2022 based on 158 countries was 221467 refugees. The highest value was in Turkey: 3568259 refugees and the lowest value was in Fiji: 5 refugees. The indicator is available from 1960 to 2022. Below is a chart for all countries where data are available.

www.theglobaleconomy.com

Poland probably now sits in the top 3.

I used to have conversations with the right wing morons on here and they would spout…. ‘they’re all coming here’ until I pointed out to the dunces that they actually weren’t. Then they would rant that ‘but the Muslim countries should help first and they ain’t’ was their next go-to. I’d then show them how many millions Turkey Jordan etc took in and then they’d start to mumble how much smaller the UK is etc.
Fugging thick doesn’t even come close.

 

[Deleted member 18243]

Or, more importantly, not seek asylum in a country that will persecute them.

And as we have said about a gadzillion times before - most asylum seekers and immigrants go to other European countries. We get the smallest number, yet people still moan.

Some stats for asylum seekers:

72% hosted in neighbouring countries
83% hosted in low- and middle-income countries (that's not the UK, yet)
486,800 refugees returned or were resettled
36.5 million are children
1.5 million children were born as refugees

Those last figures must surely stir some emotion in even the most radical anti-immigrant.
36.5 million children - do you think they are all trying to exploit you and your country?

https://www.unhcr.org/refugee-statistics/

Refugee population - Country rankings​

Countries	Refugee population, 2021	Global rank	Available data
Turkey	3759817	1	1960 - 2021
Jordan	3047612	2	1960 - 2021
Palestine	2400208	3	1960 - 2021
Uganda	1529903	4	1961 - 2021
Pakistan	1491070	5	1979 - 2021
Lebanon	1328541	6	1960 - 2021
Germany	1255694	7	1960 - 2021
Sudan	1103918	8	1967 - 2021
Bangladesh	918907	9	1978 - 2021
Ethiopia	821283	10	1968 - 2021
Iran	798343	11	1962 - 2021
Syria	589542	12	1960 - 2021
Chad	555782	13	1992 - 2021
DR Congo	524148	14	1960 - 2021
France	499914	15	1960 - 2021
Kenya	481048	16	1970 - 2021
Cameroon	457269	17	1970 - 2021
USA	339179	18	1960 - 2021
China	303436	19	1966 - 2021
Egypt	280686	20	1964 - 2021
Iraq	280072	21	1979 - 2021
Niger	249945	22	1977 - 2021
Sweden	240854	23	1960 - 2021
India	212413	24	1964 - 2021
Tanzania	207101	25	1961 - 2021
Austria	152514	26	1960 - 2021
Italy	144862	27	1960 - 2021
UK	137078	28	1960 - 2021

Refugee population by country, around the world | TheGlobalEconomy.com

The average for 2022 based on 158 countries was 221467 refugees. The highest value was in Turkey: 3568259 refugees and the lowest value was in Fiji: 5 refugees. The indicator is available from 1960 to 2022. Below is a chart for all countries where data are available.

www.theglobaleconomy.com

Poland probably now sits in the top 3.

Seeing as most of the refugees in circulation are muslims, it is right that most of the countries in that list are muslim. Western countries should only take Christian refugees.

 

[JP_]

Seeing as most of the refugees in circulation are muslims, it is right that most of the countries in that list are muslim. Western countries should only take Christian refugees.

We have too many Christians already!

 

[JP_]

Then they would rant that ‘but the Muslim countries should help first and they ain’t’ was their next go-to

But they wouldn't say that now... Oh hang on, Andy has replied ...

 

[transam]

I used to have conversations with the right wing morons on here and they would spout…. ‘they’re all coming here’ until I pointed out to the dunces that they actually weren’t. Then they would rant that ‘but the Muslim countries should help first and they ain’t’ was their next go-to. I’d then show them how many millions Turkey Jordan etc took in and then they’d start to mumble how much smaller the UK is etc.
Fugging thick doesn’t even come close.

Well feel
Free to step up to the plate noseall

You got a spare room ?
you can house a migrant set an example and do the decent thing ?