Build internal leaf wall without wall starter set.
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a lot has gone wrong so far, just another one for the list...
For anyone with a similar issue this website has some nice illustrations of various ties.
https://www.ancon.co.uk/products/wa...gs/other-restraint-fixings/ties-for-steelwork
https://www.ancon.co.uk/products/wa...gs/other-restraint-fixings/ties-for-steelwork
Ive been looking for these, but no merchants readily have these available.
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Now why doesn't that surprise me about this building game?
Because Ancon are a market leading supplier of high quality specialised products, why would a merchant keep stock of some random bits and bobs from their vast range for some lazy arse dopey punter trying to save a couple of quid by not paying for some decent drawings that tell him what products to procure in advance! ****s sake!
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But why didn't the SE say to the client he needed those drawings instead of leaving it all to the builder???
Everything is always someone else's fault in building. No one wants to take ownership. It's a bit like after the customer has a bad meal in a restaurant the chef comes out and blames the waiter for letting the customer order the wrong food!
Everything is always someone else's fault in building. No one wants to take ownership. It's a bit like after the customer has a bad meal in a restaurant the chef comes out and blames the waiter for letting the customer order the wrong food!
There are no other drawings. The OP is building blind.
The SE has been asked to design a windpost and beam. He's done that. Without knowledge of any other part of the building, he can not integrate his design and so relies on others doing that, and the Se wont be responsible for any issues or detriment to his design caused by poor integration or failing to follow his design.
I wasn't expecting a serious answer to my wind up attempt lol.
Just would like the OP's take on it. Is he possibly the architect of his own misfortune so to speak or has he made every effort but perhaps didn't appreciate how important these detail drawings are to the building process??? I mean he has tried to cover the bases with his posts here. But maybe the damage was already done??? It is a position many extenders find themselves in.
Just would like the OP's take on it. Is he possibly the architect of his own misfortune so to speak or has he made every effort but perhaps didn't appreciate how important these detail drawings are to the building process??? I mean he has tried to cover the bases with his posts here. But maybe the damage was already done??? It is a position many extenders find themselves in.
You don't know that, that's pure supposition it's a crap engineer who doesn't specify what ties should be used if they're out of the ordinary, the OP should grow some and tell the SE he needs a type or spec but as mentioned he saved a few quid on no other bloody drawings, crap SE, crap builder, tight client .
Guys, I understand there are many digs at my situation at the moment and I appreciate that. This is my first major building works to a home I’ve lived in for 5 years. I’ve been researching this stuff for the last 6 months before I took the leap of faith knowing damn well I haven’t got every base covered, but I know I have tried to consider everything through my research.
There is no 101 guide book about the best way to do this. I started it based on what I read. None of my mates or close family members have done anything similar so there isn’t anyone to ask. So I done what I thought was the best course of action. I went on building sites to find builders who can do the job, and I went on other sites to find an SE based on advice I got from builders who quoted me stating things I probably should have lined up.
In hindsight I probably should have chosen a better SE and a better builder, but I would never had known I’ve got what I got. I didn’t chose the cheapest options. In fact the SE so far is 20% more than other SE quotes. Unfortunately the main problem with the online site I went with for an SE required upfront payment before any site discussions. The builder isn’t the cheapest builder, in fact it was a medium price range, however I was assured they would take care of everything given the paperwork I got back from the SE. But obviously that attitude changed 1/2 way through the job.
I do have a bunch of lessons learnt from this experience, however considering it is not yet over, I’m sure I would have more.
I would appreciate that as a community, a few of us must have once been in a similar situation, and personally I find the situation easier to handle when able to talk to people about ideas.
There is no 101 guide book about the best way to do this. I started it based on what I read. None of my mates or close family members have done anything similar so there isn’t anyone to ask. So I done what I thought was the best course of action. I went on building sites to find builders who can do the job, and I went on other sites to find an SE based on advice I got from builders who quoted me stating things I probably should have lined up.
In hindsight I probably should have chosen a better SE and a better builder, but I would never had known I’ve got what I got. I didn’t chose the cheapest options. In fact the SE so far is 20% more than other SE quotes. Unfortunately the main problem with the online site I went with for an SE required upfront payment before any site discussions. The builder isn’t the cheapest builder, in fact it was a medium price range, however I was assured they would take care of everything given the paperwork I got back from the SE. But obviously that attitude changed 1/2 way through the job.
I do have a bunch of lessons learnt from this experience, however considering it is not yet over, I’m sure I would have more.
I would appreciate that as a community, a few of us must have once been in a similar situation, and personally I find the situation easier to handle when able to talk to people about ideas.
I would also like to state, that the SE did know about the project and the end state. It was all drawn out for the SE how I wanted. He can’t design steels if he didn’t know what they were used for...
Despite this setback you will have saved a small fortune from not having gone for a turnkey solution like so many people do. If you look at it in context you are still way ahead.
I'm sure you can get things back on track soon and get it all finished off and it will be a great extension. This is just a bump in the road and will be all forgotten in a couple of months.
I'm sure you can get things back on track soon and get it all finished off and it will be a great extension. This is just a bump in the road and will be all forgotten in a couple of months.
There is. Its on every council's web site on th eplanning and building regs pages.
In fact, if you put "build an extension" in to Google UK you get this as the very first hit www.homebuilding.co.uk/extension-beginners-guide/
But the OP did get some drawings done. I don't think many people doing this for the first time would have appreciated the need for sectional drawings for the fixings. He relied on SE advice that has proved not to be helpful advice.
I accept the outcome is part and parcel of project managing your own building works, which is what the OP seems to have done. However I think you are being a bit harsh myself as the OP did make an effort to take advice from the SE. I am not saying it is the SE's fault but it wasn't forseeable by the OP either.
I accept the outcome is part and parcel of project managing your own building works, which is what the OP seems to have done. However I think you are being a bit harsh myself as the OP did make an effort to take advice from the SE. I am not saying it is the SE's fault but it wasn't forseeable by the OP either.
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