CCTV

[Bodd]

I have signs up '' CCTV please unmask before entering...

 

[mattylad]

They do depending on your reach. I think as long as the coverage doesn't strech beyond your own boundaries you have nothing to worry about.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...stic-cctv-using-cctv-systems-on-your-property

Um that link contains guidelines, recommended code of practice and for cameras being put in a public place.
Not domestic properties - there is currently no law that says you have to put up signs.

Having signs up or not makes no difference to any insurance claims.

 

[motorbiking]

There is no requirement for signs and a lack of signage would certainly not prevent a criminal prosecution or even a civil claim. The only real issues to watch out for are :
Voyeurism - https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/42/section/67
Harassment - https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1997/40/contents

Nobody can stop you filming them in a public place - unless:
- it is the terms of your license to be there (e.g. a theatre)
- they have somehow manage to trademark their image (e.g. some very famous people)

 

[SammyInnit]

Um that link contains guidelines, recommended code of practice and for cameras being put in a public place.
Not domestic properties - there is currently no law that says you have to put up signs.

Having signs up or not makes no difference to any insurance claims.

Yes I said that but you have to realise what is considered a public place and if your cameras record images from beyond your own boundaries the same rules apply.

You also need to be aware that if your camera(s) captures images outside the confines of your of household, those images are subject to the DPA. Please see the Information Commissioner’s Office website for more information about domestic cameras covering areas other than your own property.

https://ico.org.uk/your-data-matters/cctv/

 

[mattylad]

Again, links to sites that refer to non household CCTV operators, organisations.
These do not apply to domestic properties.

You need to be clear that public organisations and businesses etc. are all treated differently to the general public/householders.
The rules that apply to them do not apply to a domestic property.

 

[SammyInnit]

These do not apply to domestic properties.

Yes, they do.

Why don't you try reading them rather than presuming you already know what they say?

If you are recording part of a public place outside of your boundary it applies to you.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/surveillance-camera-code-of-practice

 

[securespark]

That's right, using either a camera or CCTV people are allowed to expect a right of privacy.

Except when in a public place.

 

[sodthisforfun]

Except when in a public place.

Yeah I know!
But I was commenting on your original post

What's the difference between you standing in your driveway recording everything going on and a cam attached to your house doing the same?

 

[securespark]

Are you saying that if you are in the park and take a picture of little Johnny feeding the ducks, that image is subject to the DPA?

 

[securespark]

Yeah I know!
But I was commenting on your original post

Got you.

 

[SammyInnit]

Are you saying that if you are in the park and take a picture of little Johnny feeding the ducks, that image is subject to the DPA?

It's not CCTV so it's not defined under the same set of rules.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photography_and_the_law#United_Kingdom

 

[securespark]

The police stopped to talk to me a while back, I take pictures of stupid or funny things and in this case I was in the centre of Manchester taking a picture of a pigeon eating chips in the gutter.

They were none too polite, demanded to know what I was doing, where I had been, where I was going, what buildings I had taken pictures of etc.. I got the "can't be too careful in this day and age" bolox. I told them I was well within my right to photograph anything in a public place, regardless of whether somebody wasn't happy about it or not (the allegation was that a hotel security guard had had complaints - completely fabricated) and if I really was a terrorist wanting to take images, I would either use a covert camera or look at Google Street View on a PC. I used to have great respect for police, but these guys were just pushing their weight around. I got the distinct impression that they generally get their way when "demanding" a member of the public does what they say.

I showed them a letter (albeit an old one) I had got off the internet. They left me alone.

https://issuu.com/alanlodge/docs/trotter_taking-of-photographs-all-forces-guidance-

 

[SammyInnit]

I showed them a letter (albeit an old one) I had got off the internet. They left me alone.

I used to go out quite frequently to take photos, not so much any more but I always kept copies on me of the wording should anything come up. It's well documented on youtube. If you haven't already, I'd recommend a watch of this guys channel:

 

[securespark]

It's worrying, isn't it?
And it appears that action was taken because the photographer would not do as he was told, when he was acting lawfully in the first place.

 

[KenGMac]

So?
What about "body cameras" on a cop? there is generally no sign on the cop? or is there? possibly one law for Joe public and one for the enforcement agencies? even para=medics have them attached to the front of their uniforms?

My Dash Cam came with a warning from the maker to display a CCTV Recording in progress sign

I am now confused