Certification in Scotland

[tarmacadam]

Hello all, this is my first post and probably only really applies to any Scottish sparks out there.
My question,
What all exactly is involved in this electrical certification process, I know I find an approved certifier from the sbsa website....then what? and how much does it cost. Will they just observe work done, test and sign off or is this scheme to select them to do the work.
Can i not just do the work then have it tested by a spark.

Cheers in advance guys.

 

[shortcircuit48]

What is the nature of the work you are proposing to carry out?

The certification process comes into being mainly where a building warrant is required.

Do a search on this forum

 

[baldelectrician]

You should use a competent person for the work, links below

In Scotland:
Individuals regitered;
http://www.sbsa.gov.uk/register/ListAC.asp
Companies
http://www.sbsa.gov.uk/register/SearchCo.asp?T=Construction&ID=2

In England and Wales:
http://www.competentperson.co.uk

The building warrant stuff is detailed below

The council require electrical paperwork from a competent person
(a competent person is classed as a member of SELECT or a NICIEC full scope contractor)

See links for my local council

http://www.north-ayrshire.gov.uk/na...=NoDoc&DFBC=Building regulations&CatLevel=3||

http://www.east-ayrshire.gov.uk/devser/documents/bsguidancecei.pdf

SBSA Guidance (what the councils should be adhering to)
http://www.sbsa.gov.uk/pdfs/Electrical Guidance for Verifiers 29Mar06.pdf

see also

http://www.sec.uk.net

 

[tarmacadam]

What is the nature of the work you are proposing to carry out?

rewire of 2 bed end terrace.


Baldelectrician, I noticed on your website that the certification process is free if you undertake the work. Roughly how much would it be for the test, inspection and certification alone. You see what I'm looking for is, if i have to go down this road, to basically present the design of the installation, (have the first fix and second fix inspected if need be) then tested by someone competent in that field.
Is this going to present a problem to a certifier because they're signing off someone else's work (thereby not even entertaining the idea) or if the work is done to the required standard would it be possible that a certifier would agree to it.

Guys thanks for the replies.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

You should use a competent person for the work, links below

"Should" is likely to be an opinion.

Do you have to?

See links for my local council

http://www.north-ayrshire.gov.uk/na...=NoDoc&DFBC=Building regulations&CatLevel=3||

http://www.east-ayrshire.gov.uk/devser/documents/bsguidancecei.pdf[/QUOTE]
No offence to your local council, but you only have to look at what Sedgefield say to realise that sometimes councils put out a load of b*****ks.

I've no idea if what Ayrshire say is right or wrong, and I've no reason to disbelieve it. (Or believe it). As ever, I'd be more interested in what the original legislation says....

 

[baldelectrician]

tarmacadam

drop me an email
[email protected]

off to bed (after a nice bit of malt)

 

[shortcircuit48]

Rewiring a 2 bed end terrace house does not come into the certification scheme, providing it is not part of other works for which a building warrant was obtained and you therefor have no need to contact building control.

You can carry out the works yourself, however this is not recommended. You should employ an electrician.

 

[baldelectrician]

You should get BS7671 certification for any rewire, this would make your life easier with regards selling the house on.
If something were to go wrong there would be paperwork - less chance for an insurance company to wriggle out of paying.

You don't need a building warrant.

Approx costs (for decent quality - not screwfix tat)
Materials £500-£800
Labour £1400 (less if donkey work done by client)

Should take 5-6 days labour.

The devil is in the detail.

I usually find a house is easier to rewire than a flat.

 

[tarmacadam]

OK guys thanks for your replies,

In 1995/96 i obtained 25 SQA national certificate modules in electrical installation, during part of an apprenticeship i undertook when leaving school. The numnut, halfwit, dosey....i could go on... that i am, did not complete it(for whatever reasons, could be doin it on me days off now!), so i guess what i'm trying to say is that i do have some experience in this field however I am not claiming in any way to be a competent spark. i realize that your game moves on at some pace and it was a while back that i was at it. I'm a fire fighter now and i would not undertake any work myself that i wasn't 100% sure about.
I have been pricing up materials from the tlc catalogue, (contactum mainly) and was gonna take my price to the local wholesalers to see what they could do for me.
I need to install central heating too at this point ( as i have goddamm storage heaters at the minute) so as you can probably appreciate cash is quite tight.

I do plan on selling the house on in a few years as this is my first property and so I'm really just wanting a safer, more up to date and practical installation.

Thanks again guys.[/i]

 

[baldelectrician]

Don't do contactum

I use GET, and I find them very good. Less than 0.5% failure rate.
MK consumer units are still good.

I don't use CEF, as the price depends on the phase of the tides, who you speak to, and other randomesque things.

 

[tarmacadam]

I was looking at the ultimate range on the tlc website, I must admit it looks much better and was my first choice (certainly aesthetic wise), however they don't do everything I'm looking for and I'm a little neurotic that way
Will have a look about and try to find another source for their products.

Cheers.

 

[baldelectrician]

I deal with riverbank electrical in Kilmarnock, 01563 537617.

They do the whole range of GET (ultimate and exclusive)

The GET exclusive range looks identical to older MK, so sits well if you replace a old MK immerser switch, for example