EV are they worth it?

Skoda has just launched it's latest version of the Superb. Two petrols, two diesels and a petrol/electric hybrid. No all electric hugger Ever Ready model!

Is this the future?? Do they know something we don't??

The future isn't orange; it's ICE.
 
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Very wise, drag it out - wait and see. Maybe the impracticality of large scale EV ownership will have dawned by then.
How is it impractical?
We already have a National Grid to supply electricity, ready and waiting for cars to plug in.
 
The problem with Skoda, is that they don't have any real development capabilities of their own. They're limited to what VW are prepared to give them. VW, in turn, have caught something of a cold with their relatively lacklustre iD3 and 4 models - which are "OK" but don't have the "sex appeal" of some of the Korean offerings, nor the novelty value of some of the new startups like Rivian, and Polestar (although the latter is really Volvo / Geely), nor the bargain basement price appeal of some of the Chinese ones like MG. And, of course, they're all competing with Tesla, the world's best seller, itself a relatively new kid on the vehicle manufacturing block.

We most certainly have interesting times ahead. The car manufacturing world order has been (irrevocably, in my opinion) shaken-up, and there will be winners and losers. The Chinese are most certainly looking at it as their golden opportunity to get a toehold in Europe. Let's not underestimate them, like we did with the Japanese 50 years ago!
 
And, of course, they're all competing with Tesla, the world's best seller, itself a relatively new kid on the vehicle manufacturing block.
I always wonder what may have happened to Lotus, had the tie up with Tesla continued past the Roadster :unsure:
...and funny how they're now majority owned by Geely.
 
Skoda has just launched it's latest version of the Superb. Two petrols, two diesels and a petrol/electric hybrid. No all electric hugger Ever Ready model!

Is this the future?? Do they know something we don't??

The future isn't orange; it's ICE.
the transformation from Internally Combusting cars to Randomly Combusting Cars seems to be loosing its appeal.

where did we leave the car?
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the transformation from Internally Combusting cars to Randomly Combusting Cars seems to be loosing its appeal.

where did we leave the car?
Remnants_of_Bonfire%2C_Barrack_Hill_-_geograph.org.uk_-_1398223.jpg

A Halloween bonfire isn't really relevant
 
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“All the data shows that EVs are just much, much less likely to set on fire than their petrol equivalent,” said Colin Walker, the head of transport at the Energy and Climate Intelligence Unit thinktank. “The many, many fires that you have for petrol or diesel cars just aren’t reported.”

Fires can start in several ways. Car batteries store energy by moving lithium ions inside a battery cell but if cells are penetrated or if impurities from manufacturing errors cause short-circuits, then unwanted chemical reactions can start “thermal runaway”, where cells heat up rapidly, releasing toxic and flammable gas. In petrol cars, fires can start via electrical faults causing sparks or if the engine overheats because of a fault in the cooling systems, potentially igniting flammable fuel.

In Norway, which has the world’s highest proportion of electric car sales, there are between four and five times more fires in petrol and diesel cars, according to the directorate for social security and emergency preparedness. The Swedish Civil Contingencies Agency this year found that there were 3.8 fires per 100,000 electric or hybrid cars in 2022, compared with 68 fires per 100,000 cars when taking all fuel types into account. However, the latter figures include arson, making comparisons tricky.

Australia’s Department of Defence funded EV FireSafe to look into the question. It found there was a 0.0012% chance of a passenger electric vehicle battery catching fire, compared with a 0.1% chance for internal combustion engine cars. (The Home Office said it was unable to provide data for the UK.)
 
I always wonder what may have happened to Lotus, had the tie up with Tesla continued past the Roadster :unsure:
...and funny how they're now majority owned by Geely.

I think Lotus is in a fair bit of bother now. I have a mate who (until very recently) worked there but has just jumped ship!:cry:
 
“All the data shows that EVs are just much, much less likely to set on fire than their petrol equivalent,” said Colin Walker, the head of transport at the Energy and Climate Intelligence Unit thinktank. “The many, many fires that you have for petrol or diesel cars just aren’t reported.”

Fires can start in several ways. Car batteries store energy by moving lithium ions inside a battery cell but if cells are penetrated or if impurities from manufacturing errors cause short-circuits, then unwanted chemical reactions can start “thermal runaway”, where cells heat up rapidly, releasing toxic and flammable gas. In petrol cars, fires can start via electrical faults causing sparks or if the engine overheats because of a fault in the cooling systems, potentially igniting flammable fuel.

In Norway, which has the world’s highest proportion of electric car sales, there are between four and five times more fires in petrol and diesel cars, according to the directorate for social security and emergency preparedness. The Swedish Civil Contingencies Agency this year found that there were 3.8 fires per 100,000 electric or hybrid cars in 2022, compared with 68 fires per 100,000 cars when taking all fuel types into account. However, the latter figures include arson, making comparisons tricky.

Australia’s Department of Defence funded EV FireSafe to look into the question. It found there was a 0.0012% chance of a passenger electric vehicle battery catching fire, compared with a 0.1% chance for internal combustion engine cars. (The Home Office said it was unable to provide data for the UK.)

So at least we know Nutjob isn't a special adviser to any of those governments! ;)
 
I think Lotus is in a fair bit of bother now. I have a mate who (until very recently) worked there but has just jumped ship!:cry:
Unfortunately like so many smaller UK manufacturers who seem to exist in a state of crisis, flirting with bankruptcy over decades cf Aston Martin and TVR
 
How is it impractical?
We already have a National Grid to supply electricity, ready and waiting for cars to plug in.

The generating component of the NG is dramatically undersized - i.e. unable - to produce anywhere the output required.

The installed cabling is hugely undersized to carry the load that will be required to fuel a majority EV car-parc.
 
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