Fascias : paint or replace with plastic?

[kez1]

You don't need us to remind you not to buy gloss black fascia do you? Make sure it's foiled.

Hi Mw Roofline,

Thanks. What do you mean foiled?

 

[kez1]

Oh and btw, have you got a van? Come to Birmingham and pick up the materials and my supplier will beat that cheaper price. Email me their quote and I'll fax it to my supplier.

Hi Mw Roofline,

Thanks. It would have to be a delivery as I am in Aberdeen.
Eurocell spec & quote and SpeedyPlastics spec and quote is as follows

Eurocell quote, 26.10.2015

ref Description Qty Net ex VAT inc VAT
CB25064 250mm x 9mm Capping board (white) x 5 m 9 £22.06 £198.54 £238.25
UB35064 350mm x 9mm Utility / Flat Board (White) 9 £33.70 £303.30 £363.96
GRA404064 40mm x 40mm white rigid angle x 5m 15 £4.00 £60.00 £72.00
CB20064 200mm x 9mm Capping board (white) x 5 m 6 £17.62 £105.72 £126.86
UB30064 300mm x 9mm Utility / Flat Board (White) 6 £27.17 £163.02 £195.62
CB30064 300mm x 9mm Capping board (white) x 5 m 1 £26.48 £26.48 £31.78
Total £857.06 £1,028.47 (delivered)


Speedy plastics & resins web quote 26.10.2015 (www.speedyplasticsandresins.co.uk)

ref Description Qty Net ex VAT inc VAT
250mm x 8mm Capping Fascia board (white) x 5 m 9 £17.07 £153.63 £184.36
405mm x 10mm Soffit board (white) x 5 m 9 £29.32 £263.88 £316.66
30mm x 30mm white rigid angle (white) x 5m 15 £4.83 £72.45 £86.94
200mm x 8mm Capping Fascia board (white) x 5 m 6 £12.94 £77.64 £93.17
300mm x 10mm Soffit board (white) x 5 m 6 £20.00 £120.00 £144.00
300mm x 8mm Capping Fascia board (white) x 5 m 1 £20.58 £20.58 £24.70
Total £708.18 £849.82

 

[oldbutnotdead]

That's odd your experience with the paint. Not meaning to teach granny to suck eggs but you did give it a really good stir?- the tins may have been sat on the shelf for a long time & paints do separate out especially traditional ones (the stuff with all the bad chemicals in that gives a really good finish). Or were you painting on a rare red hot day?

 

[kez1]

That's odd your experience with the paint. Not meaning to teach granny to suck eggs but you did give it a really good stir?- the tins may have been sat on the shelf for a long time & paints do separate out especially traditional ones (the stuff with all the bad chemicals in that gives a really good finish). Or were you painting on a rare red hot day?

Hi OldButNotDead

Yes really good stir. Wierd paint. Only opened one can so far. May be I should get the other open and see if the same. Prob same batch. Wander if a bad batch. Stuff really thin.

I will phone the supplier and see what they say.

 

[kez1]

That's odd your experience with the paint. Not meaning to teach granny to suck eggs but you did give it a really good stir?- the tins may have been sat on the shelf for a long time & paints do separate out especially traditional ones (the stuff with all the bad chemicals in that gives a really good finish). Or were you painting on a rare red hot day?

Hi OldButNotDead

Yes really good stir. Wierd paint. Only opened one can so far. May be I should get the other open and see if the same. Prob same batch. Wander if a bad batch. Stuff really thin.

I will phone the supplier and see what they say.

I just phoned PPG Architectural, who make Johnstone's Paints and spoke with technical. She said it's a runny paint designed to go on quickly, used by a professional painter. (Explains why many painters I have seen are covered in paint and have sheets down everywhere.)

She recommended the Johnstone's non-drip gloss & Johnstone's non-drip Professional undercoat. Next time that's what I will get.

 

[ree]

Since tuesday, the time factor sequence of this thread is a bit puzzling - are you right now painting the woodwork or what?
When did the runny paint run?

AAMOI: i wouldn't replace any plastic unless its absolutely brittle and necessary.

Rubber seals can be replaced - keep the fitting and replace the seals.

 

[kez1]

Since tuesday, the time factor sequence of this thread is a bit puzzling - are you right now painting the woodwork or what?
When did the runny paint run?

AAMOI: i wouldn't replace any plastic unless its absolutely brittle and necessary.

Rubber seals can be replaced - keep the fitting and replace the seals.

Hi Ree

The original intention was to paint or overclad.
I was recommended Johnstones Storm Shield paint as the best.
I bought it and it was super runny.
The idea of applying it upside down with a loaded paint brush did not appeal.
The paint would have gone everywhere - I used it on the windows instead and a fair few drops ended up where they shouldn't have.
So .. when someone asked did I stir the paint .. I wandered .. because I had not used such runny paint before. So I checked with the manufacturer and it turns out pro painters use it just like that - runny. Because it allows them to get it on quickly.

My interest all along has really been the most cost effective way of sorting the problem permanently, and thus making it go away.

I will know when I get the right solution - I think it is over cladding.

 

[kez1]

Since tuesday, the time factor sequence of this thread is a bit puzzling - are you right now painting the woodwork or what?
When did the runny paint run?

AAMOI: i wouldn't replace any plastic unless its absolutely brittle and necessary.

Rubber seals can be replaced - keep the fitting and replace the seals.

Hi Ree

The runny paint ran at all times the paint was in use, as soon as the tin was opened. The tin was thoroughly stirred before use, especially because I had never seen a paint that thin before. So I stirred and stirred and it did'nt get much thicker. The paint fell of the brush continually at which ever angle it was used, and even when there was a small amount on the brush it always ends sliding up the back and going somewhere it shouldn't.

 

[Mw Roofline]

Oh and btw, have you got a van? Come to Birmingham and pick up the materials and my supplier will beat that cheaper price. Email me their quote and I'll fax it to my supplier.

Hi Mw Roofline,

Thanks. It would have to be a delivery as I am in Aberdeen.
Eurocell spec & quote and SpeedyPlastics spec and quote is as follows

Eurocell quote, 26.10.2015

ref Description Qty Net ex VAT inc VAT
CB25064 250mm x 9mm Capping board (white) x 5 m 9 £22.06 £198.54 £238.25
UB35064 350mm x 9mm Utility / Flat Board (White) 9 £33.70 £303.30 £363.96
GRA404064 40mm x 40mm white rigid angle x 5m 15 £4.00 £60.00 £72.00
CB20064 200mm x 9mm Capping board (white) x 5 m 6 £17.62 £105.72 £126.86
UB30064 300mm x 9mm Utility / Flat Board (White) 6 £27.17 £163.02 £195.62
CB30064 300mm x 9mm Capping board (white) x 5 m 1 £26.48 £26.48 £31.78
Total £857.06 £1,028.47 (delivered)


Speedy plastics & resins web quote 26.10.2015 (www.speedyplasticsandresins.co.uk)

ref Description Qty Net ex VAT inc VAT
250mm x 8mm Capping Fascia board (white) x 5 m 9 £17.07 £153.63 £184.36
405mm x 10mm Soffit board (white) x 5 m 9 £29.32 £263.88 £316.66
30mm x 30mm white rigid angle (white) x 5m 15 £4.83 £72.45 £86.94
200mm x 8mm Capping Fascia board (white) x 5 m 6 £12.94 £77.64 £93.17
300mm x 10mm Soffit board (white) x 5 m 6 £20.00 £120.00 £144.00
300mm x 8mm Capping Fascia board (white) x 5 m 1 £20.58 £20.58 £24.70
Total £708.18 £849.82

That's not the full quote, and it's for white, didn't you want black? Where are the prices for all the corners, joiners, J trim, soffit trim, nails, screws and guttering? What are the three prices for on the right? Chees

 

[Mw Roofline]

Cheers not cheese!

 

[ree]

Thanks for the explanation. I still dont get it in terms of your posts but ... whatever.

AAMOI: you most probably have quite a bit of cutting out and replacement - eg. see the barge board tail - before you could overclad or even do a decent paint job.
Dont leave even a trace of fungal damage/rot in the fascia/woodwork or it will come back to bite you.

Whether its your most cost effective long term solution, i dont know.
Houses esp. houses in exposed seaside positions, are like living things - they are constantly moving and changing. No remedial repairs will be permanent - perhaps long term but not permanent.

 

[kez1]

Oh and btw, have you got a van? Come to Birmingham and pick up the materials and my supplier will beat that cheaper price. Email me their quote and I'll fax it to my supplier.

Hi Mw Roofline,

Thanks. It would have to be a delivery as I am in Aberdeen.
Eurocell spec & quote and SpeedyPlastics spec and quote is as follows

Eurocell quote, 26.10.2015

ref Description Qty Net ex VAT inc VAT
CB25064 250mm x 9mm Capping board (white) x 5 m 9 £22.06 £198.54 £238.25
UB35064 350mm x 9mm Utility / Flat Board (White) 9 £33.70 £303.30 £363.96
GRA404064 40mm x 40mm white rigid angle x 5m 15 £4.00 £60.00 £72.00
CB20064 200mm x 9mm Capping board (white) x 5 m 6 £17.62 £105.72 £126.86
UB30064 300mm x 9mm Utility / Flat Board (White) 6 £27.17 £163.02 £195.62
CB30064 300mm x 9mm Capping board (white) x 5 m 1 £26.48 £26.48 £31.78
Total £857.06 £1,028.47 (delivered)


Speedy plastics & resins web quote 26.10.2015 (www.speedyplasticsandresins.co.uk)

ref Description Qty Net ex VAT inc VAT
250mm x 8mm Capping Fascia board (white) x 5 m 9 £17.07 £153.63 £184.36
405mm x 10mm Soffit board (white) x 5 m 9 £29.32 £263.88 £316.66
30mm x 30mm white rigid angle (white) x 5m 15 £4.83 £72.45 £86.94
200mm x 8mm Capping Fascia board (white) x 5 m 6 £12.94 £77.64 £93.17
300mm x 10mm Soffit board (white) x 5 m 6 £20.00 £120.00 £144.00
300mm x 8mm Capping Fascia board (white) x 5 m 1 £20.58 £20.58 £24.70
Total £708.18 £849.82

That's not the full quote, and it's for white, didn't you want black? Where are the prices for all the corners, joiners, J trim, soffit trim, nails, screws and guttering? What are the three prices for on the right? Cheers

Hi MW Roofline

I'm sure that the parts list I have spec'd is not full, as it would be, if done by a pro.
I did go up to eurocell and asked for some help with a white overcladding parts spec.
They said they were understaffed and I haven't got round to going back and trying again.
I have shown my roof line drawings to a few people and no one has got back.
So I've just got on with the list myself.
.. Yes I would need joiners. Not sure which ones.

Not sure why corners ; lengths of the L angle should do that?
If you have further ideas these are welcome.

Here is the spec I put together.

Thanks

 

[kez1]

Thanks for the explanation. I still dont get it in terms of your posts but ... whatever.

AAMOI: you most probably have quite a bit of cutting out and replacement - eg. see the barge board tail - before you could overclad or even do a decent paint job.
Dont leave even a trace of fungal damage/rot in the fascia/woodwork or it will come back to bite you.

Whether its your most cost effective long term solution, i dont know.
Houses esp. houses in exposed seaside positions, are like living things - they are constantly moving and changing. No remedial repairs will be permanent - perhaps long term but not permanent.

HI Ree,

I can see you are right. I will make sure to cut out all the rot/ fungal / degraded wood before progressing.

Thank you

 

[terrypin]

Lovely place you have there, views of the sea and fresh sea air, wonderful.

 

[Mw Roofline]

That's great. I'm off till next week and I'll get you some supply only prices form our place mate.