How to replace wall lights with old style wiring?

[Damsel in Distress]

Hello,

I have been trying to solve this for the last 4 hours and getting no where. I have two wall lights:

Wall Light 1
Sheath1- has 1 red wire, 1 bare wire and 1 black wire
Sheath2- has 1 black wire

I have connected this to the chocbox identical to previous wall light from image I took.

Wall Light 2
Sheath1 - has 1 red wire, 1 bare wire and 1 black wire
Sheath2 - has 1 red wire and 1 bare wire

(Picture of wiring for Wall Light 2 attached)

It is Wall Light 2 I am stuck because partner took it off the wall without taking a pic of the wiring. Any advice would be extremely welcome.

Thank you.

Image of wall light and switch added (middle switch is for Wall lights)

 

[Midas Man]

You need a multimeter. Cost about £10.

 

[EFLImpudence]

I think a picture of light one would be more help.

Are both lights operated by the same switch?
If yes, which one is nearer the switch?



What is the problem you are having?

 

[sparkwright]

Send a picture or description of the one you successfully connected.

Also, assuming these lights were controlled by a wall switch, send some pictures of that too.

If the lights are controlled by a wall switch, do the wall lights come on together, or are they seperately switched?

 

[Damsel in Distress]

I've added images for Wall Light 1 picture and switch. Wall Light 2 is closer to the switch. Thank you kindly.

 

[Damsel in Distress]

The closest I got was getting both lights on when I turned the power back on which is no good as they were permanently on. When working correctly they should turn on at the same time ☺

 

[sparkwright]

The closest I got was getting both lights on when I turned the power back on which is no good as they were permanently on. When working correctly they should turn on at the same time ☺

And how were the wires connected up to achieve them permanently on?

 

[Damsel in Distress]

Wall light 2 :

2 red together separate from the terminal. Bare wire from sheath 2 in live, black in neutral and bare from sheath 1 in earth slot.

 

[Iggifer]

Wall light 2 :

2 red together separate from the terminal. Bare wire from sheath 2 in live, black in neutral and bare from sheath 1 in earth slot.

And it worked like this? I'm concerned. You put one of the bare earths into live, the black into neutral, and it worked?!

I take it you don't have an RCD?

 

[Echo the husky]

Good grief! Call an electrician!

 

[Damsel in Distress]

I know it's crazy but I had to try every possibility. Does anyone know where the wires should actually go? Just to note the bare I put in live has 12v coming from it when I tested it is assumed it could of been the switch wire....

 

[Midas Man]

So you have a multi meter?

 

[sparkwright]

DO NOT DO ANY MORE GUESSWORK.

That is not the safe way to work, and how you connected that was a very bad guess.

As for the light you have wired which you believe to be correct, you shouldn't have any exposed copper showing (the right hand wire with the grey sleeve).

 

[Damsel in Distress]

I don't have a multi meter just a screwdriver which tells me the volts coming from the wires

 

[Midas Man]

If you confirm you have a digital multi meter then I can sort your problem.