Kitchen hob from bottle

[Dylan T]

Hi all - was hoping someone clued up with gas could help me with a left field q. I'm converting a camper and need to stick a hob in; don't want a special camping hob but more of a domestic hob you'd normally stick in the kitchen. Question is - can I stick that to a bottle and if so can it be propane/butane/lpg/patio gas (still a bit confused what the difference is). My assumption was they are all forms of natural gas so would be fine but the more I read the more confused I get!

Thanks

 

[FiremanT]

Hi all - was hoping someone clued up with gas could help me with a left field q. I'm converting a camper and need to stick a hob in; don't want a special camping hob but more of a domestic hob you'd normally stick in the kitchen. Question is - can I stick that to a bottle and if so can it be propane/butane/lpg/patio gas (still a bit confused what the difference is). My assumption was they are all forms of natural gas so would be fine but the more I read the more confused I get!

Thanks

Butane/Propane and Natural Gas have different calorific values. Ie they liberate different amounts of heat from the same vokume. This means that the injectors may be different for each application

 

[just pumps]

The hob will need 12v ignition or a box of matches to light and the burner jets will need to those suitable for propane or butane lpg gas (patio gas doesnt burn hot enough for cooking).
Certain sized bottles are difficult to source at the moment and are ruddy expensive. I fitted a 12v 4 burner hob 50 x 60 cm to my boat but smaller 2 or 3 burner hobs are available online.

 

[Stivino]

The hob I have in my kitchen came with an extra set of jets for propane. It might be the case that all/most/some new hobs come that way.

 

[just pumps]

The hob I have in my kitchen came with an extra set of jets for propane. It might be the case that all/most/some new hobs come that way.

Sadly some but not all do.

 

[Dylan T]

Thanks all. Are these jets universal; ie if a hob comes without them is it just a case of replacing them with generic propane jets or are they specific to the make? And also is having jets you fit yourself safe and fairly straight forward? I'm assuming so if many give you the option.

 

[Stivino]

Sadly some but not all do.

Is that not what I said?

 

[Stivino]

Thanks all. Are these jets universal; ie if a hob comes without them is it just a case of replacing them with generic propane jets or are they specific to the make? And also is having jets you fit yourself safe and fairly straight forward? I'm assuming so if many give you the option.

I would imagine they are specific to the hob but they are a piece of cake to fit.

 

[just pumps]

Is that not what I said?

You said might but if you look many dont come with a choice so one could say the post was pointless however it is not worth having a row over.

 

[Stivino]

I just remembered that in my spare bedroom I have a brand new oven and hob. On looking at the hob I found this.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

Butane/Propane and Natural Gas have different calorific values. Ie they liberate different amounts of heat from the same vokume. This means that the injectors may be different for each application

Butane and propane now are able to work via a single pressure regulator, called a bulkhead regulator - the jetting for the appliance is then a compromise for the differing calorific values of the two gasses.

What does vary, is the adaptor for the specific gas bottle. So you have an adaptor, an high pressure hose to the bulkhead regulator, the regulator, then the low pressure distribution to the appliances.

 

[just pumps]

Thanks all. Are these jets universal; ie if a hob comes without them is it just a case of replacing them with generic propane jets or are they specific to the make? And also is having jets you fit yourself safe and fairly straight forward? I'm assuming so if many give you the option.

If you look at spares online, the seller will list which make n model the jets are for. Yes they are easy to fit but beware of snapping one off when removing one as a friend once did and I guess it is really a job for an LPG gas registered guy but that is another subject

 

[Dylan T]

Thanks all. bloody hell, who knew it would be so complicated?! Does anyone have any recommendations of type of fuel to go for? Seems to be lots of caveats regarding temperature, efficiency and cost. I had lpanned butane but it doesn't seem that the spare butane jets are as common.

 

[Stivino]

The butane and propane jets are the same, see my picture above.

 

[Dylan T]

The butane and propane jets are the same, see my picture above.

Oops didn't spot that, thanks Stivino! Top work that