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ColinJacobson
Fool! I read it and it never answered the question. It was about cables in walls.
I conclude you do not know the answer as you have not wrote it. It would be a no more than a few sentences I'm sure.
Fool! I read it and it never answered the question. It was about cables in walls.
I conclude you do not know the answer as you have not wrote it. It would be a no more than a few sentences I'm sure.
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It looks to me like you're trying to have a bit of fun by yanking our chains.
You question was:
The answer is that under certain circumstances, circuits need not be RCD protected.
If you want, or need, to understand the conditions, you are going to have to do more that ask the odd question.
Looking at the posts you have started over the last few weeks, you appear to be doing electrical work, either as a DIYer or as an unqualified or trainee electrician. If you would like to tell us what you're up to, it might help.
You question was:
The answer is that under certain circumstances, circuits need not be RCD protected.
If you want, or need, to understand the conditions, you are going to have to do more that ask the odd question.
Looking at the posts you have started over the last few weeks, you appear to be doing electrical work, either as a DIYer or as an unqualified or trainee electrician. If you would like to tell us what you're up to, it might help.
Exactly.
That's the answer to your question. An answer given by several who have taken their time to respond. You choose to ignore valid information and insult those who try to educate you further.
If you are not the wind-up merchant you protest you are not, you must be an imbecile.
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holmslaw
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I think this has already been mentioned, but RCDs are usually required for;
13 amp sockets generally, there are exceptions.
All concealed wiring less than 50 mm from the surface, unless in earthed metal conduit, swa, pyro, etc.
All bathroom circuits.
Outbuildings.
It is therefore usual to fit RCDs for most or all circuits, often by replacing the consumer unit.
The dual RCD board is a common, cheaper way round this. High integrity boards offer unprotected ways, but RCBOs can be fitted to separate the circuit from the main RCDs.
What exactly are you trying to do?
13 amp sockets generally, there are exceptions.
All concealed wiring less than 50 mm from the surface, unless in earthed metal conduit, swa, pyro, etc.
All bathroom circuits.
Outbuildings.
It is therefore usual to fit RCDs for most or all circuits, often by replacing the consumer unit.
The dual RCD board is a common, cheaper way round this. High integrity boards offer unprotected ways, but RCBOs can be fitted to separate the circuit from the main RCDs.
What exactly are you trying to do?
Your question is the equivalant of this -
If I close my eyes for 2 seconds when driving, will i hit a 1998 blue ford fiesta zetec with beige interior, rubber matt and a vanilla magic tree which is being driven by a lady wearing red glasses?
There is no difinative answer to your question as you do not specify how exactly the supply circuit will be ran or how it will be constructed, although in another thread where you are trying to give poor advice you and a ficticious engineer seem to be adamant that an armoured cable must be protected by an RCD.
Read and repeat - Colin Jacobson and electrics do not mix, Colin Jacobson and common sense do not mix, Colin Jacobson and being able to grasp the fact that not every question has a difinitive answer do not mix.
If I close my eyes for 2 seconds when driving, will i hit a 1998 blue ford fiesta zetec with beige interior, rubber matt and a vanilla magic tree which is being driven by a lady wearing red glasses?
There is no difinative answer to your question as you do not specify how exactly the supply circuit will be ran or how it will be constructed, although in another thread where you are trying to give poor advice you and a ficticious engineer seem to be adamant that an armoured cable must be protected by an RCD.
Read and repeat - Colin Jacobson and electrics do not mix, Colin Jacobson and common sense do not mix, Colin Jacobson and being able to grasp the fact that not every question has a difinitive answer do not mix.
"Colin Jacobson and this site do not mix" should be added to that list.
BAS, dont you find him laughabaly entetaining at the same time as annoyingly simple?
If you don't know, how do you know you haven't had the answer yet???
Or perhaps you do know or think you know but are interllectually unable to interpret the answers you are being given!
Or more likely, as your numerous inane questions of this forum have demonstrated, you're a wind up merchant.
No - just annoying.
But no matter what annoyance he has caused in previous threads I'm always perfectly prepared to discuss new and future topics rationally, and to confine the discussion to the topic at hand.
But that does require him to respond properly to questions and points raised, and so far he has refused to do that. My comment above was based on that behaviour. If he'd care to mend his ways then he'll be quite welcome.
But no matter what annoyance he has caused in previous threads I'm always perfectly prepared to discuss new and future topics rationally, and to confine the discussion to the topic at hand.
But that does require him to respond properly to questions and points raised, and so far he has refused to do that. My comment above was based on that behaviour. If he'd care to mend his ways then he'll be quite welcome.
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ColinJacobson
The simple answer appears to be, after all these posts
RCD is not mandatory on a dedicated alarm circuit unless the cable is direct burial in walls less 50mm from the surface.
I did all that in one sentence. Easy wasn't it? Talk about going around the mulberry bush.
RCD is not mandatory on a dedicated alarm circuit unless the cable is direct burial in walls less 50mm from the surface.
I did all that in one sentence. Easy wasn't it? Talk about going around the mulberry bush.
The simple answer appears to be, after all these posts
RCD is not mandatory on a dedicated alarm circuit unless the cable is direct burial in walls less 50mm from the surface.
I did all that in one sentence. Easy wasn't it? Talk about going around the mulberry bush.
Yes, exactly as you were told in the third reply down from your question:
But instead of taking the time to read and digest what you have been told, you simply come back and complain that you haven't been spoon-fed the information you want. Now can you see why people might think you're trying to wind us up?
The simple answer appears to be, after all these posts
RCD is not mandatory on a dedicated alarm circuit unless the cable is direct burial in walls less 50mm from the surface.
I did all that in one sentence. Easy wasn't it? Talk about going around the mulberry bush.
Unless, a cable incorperating an earth metallic sheath complying with BS7671 requirments is used
unless the cable is contained within a metal conduit or trunking
unless the installation is supervised
unless unless unless
You see, if you have said this -
"I am fitting an alarm in a house for a job and there is no near by power so i need to chase a twin and earth cable in to feed an alarm fused spur, I am aware of the routing of cables in prescribed zones and at no point on the cables run will it be out of a 'safe zone' the cable will be 1.0mm, the run will be 12 meters and the cable will be protected by a 6A over current device, it will be ran within thermal insulation for part of the run and grouped with other cables , does this cable require RCD protection?"
then you could have had a straight answer, you may have had a comment on your cable or over current protective divice too!
The simple answer appears to be, after all these posts
RCD is not mandatory on a dedicated alarm circuit unless the cable is direct burial in walls less 50mm from the surface.
I did all that in one sentence. Easy wasn't it? Talk about going around the mulberry bush.
But your original question does not actually ask;
"Is RCD mandatory on a dedicated alarm circuit?"
Does it?
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