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It's far far less consumed by fewer people because it's not readily available.
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It's far far less consumed by fewer people because it's not readily available.
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Isn't it? What country do you live in?
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I know where to buy alchohol but I wouldn't know who to approach for a bit of weed!
Do you?
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Probably easier than asking for directions, Bod.
But you're just being contrary, aren't you?
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It would take effort. And you all ready know.
This is about children.
Massive fail from the resident lackwit
No it isn't about children, you imbecile. It is already illegal for children to smoke. Are you not aware of this?
It is about banning everybody, born after a certain date, from smoking - forever. They won't be allowed to smoke when they are 30, or 40, or older. It is likely to be unworkable and provoke a backlash from the generations affected, but the core problem is with the principle.
My contention is that it isn't anybody else's business if an adult chooses to smoke. Or rock climb. Or swim in the sea. Do their knees in running marathons. Drink whisky. Eat pizza. It wasn't necessary for these sort of things to be interfered with before, so why is it now? Can you or any of the other cowards answer this question?
It can't be to save the NHS. Again, this policy hasn't been needed for the past 70 odd years and it isn't needed in other countries. Also, by banning people born after 2009 from ever smoking won't deliver any noticeable financial benefit to the NHS for decades, if at all, bearing in mind that smokers pay a lot of tax.
It takes a certain kind of weak and pathetic person to want to be coddled by others. That's all this is. Some people telling other people they can or cannot do a certain thing. And the dictators in this case are amongst the most ghastly in our society. The current crop of MPs are neither morally nor intellectually anywhere near the calibre required to interfere on this level. How could any self respecting adult wish to be dictated to by such people? Do you fools not have any self respect at all?
Some of you seem to be more like cattle than human beings. What a long way the people of this country have fallen. It was shown most shockingly during covid and the crop of beta males who post on this forum really do sum it up. You are all like clones of that revolting granny, Mark Drakeford. Dosed up on soy milk and trying to be heroic through a deranged level of safetyism.
The ultimate and most laughable part is where the same old TV-addicted plonkers, espousing the narrative spoon fed to them, will support a ban on smoking, but also support lifting the ban on cannabis... Look at the research guys. There's way more tar in cannabis, it provokes serious mental health disorders - including psychosis - and a lot of the nut job terrorists in this country are pot addicts. It also makes people dulled and lazy. Just how the state wants them... just like you and your ilk.
There, there. You're safe now - nanny is here to protect your soft little mind and pudgy body from all the dangers!
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Do cigarettes have a sell by date?
If not I may do a booze cruise in a big Luton and store them until said day comes.
I could stand outside schools with a big rain mack selling them...
I cant see anything dodgy about that!!@!!@!!@!
If not I may do a booze cruise in a big Luton and store them until said day comes.
I could stand outside schools with a big rain mack selling them...
I cant see anything dodgy about that!!@!!@!!@!
What proportion of people who ride in cars die as a result of riding in cars?
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Surprisingly I'd think about buying shares.
Currently, it is illegal to sell cigarettes to anyone under the age of 18. The government intends to bar sales to anyone born after January 1, 2009. Under the legislation, beginning in 2027, the legal age limit would increase by one year every year until it is illegal for the entire population. If all goes according to plan, the government envisages that smoking among young people would be eradicated by 2040. Shops in England and Wales caught selling cigarettes and vapes to underage people would face on-the-spot fines of £100. Courts may already impose fines of £2,500.
“We do expect over time, smoking to die out almost completely,” said Chris Whitty, chief medical officer for England, speaking on BBC Radio 4.
Who the f. is he kidding? This legislation will effectively turn the UK into a huge open air black market. In 2004, Bhutan became the only country to introduce a permanent tobacco prohibition in the modern era. The ban has led to smuggling and a thriving black market.
*A World Health Organization study found an increase in cigarette smoking among minors in Bhutan following prohibition. South Africa’s tobacco ban during the Covid-19 pandemic was also found to have been “largely unsuccessful in preventing smokers from purchasing cigarettes on the illicit market”. “The absurdities of a generational tobacco ban will become apparent as soon as the first group of teenagers turns 18 in 2026. The problems of enforcement, criminality and dwindling tax revenues will emerge more slowly but inexorably. The government’s justifications for this huge infringement on personal liberty do not stack up. The New Zealand and Malaysian governments have now turned their back on this prohibitionist ruse and it is time for the British government to look beyond the headlines and have a serious rethink.”
*IEA.org.uk
“We do expect over time, smoking to die out almost completely,” said Chris Whitty, chief medical officer for England, speaking on BBC Radio 4.
Who the f. is he kidding? This legislation will effectively turn the UK into a huge open air black market. In 2004, Bhutan became the only country to introduce a permanent tobacco prohibition in the modern era. The ban has led to smuggling and a thriving black market.
*A World Health Organization study found an increase in cigarette smoking among minors in Bhutan following prohibition. South Africa’s tobacco ban during the Covid-19 pandemic was also found to have been “largely unsuccessful in preventing smokers from purchasing cigarettes on the illicit market”. “The absurdities of a generational tobacco ban will become apparent as soon as the first group of teenagers turns 18 in 2026. The problems of enforcement, criminality and dwindling tax revenues will emerge more slowly but inexorably. The government’s justifications for this huge infringement on personal liberty do not stack up. The New Zealand and Malaysian governments have now turned their back on this prohibitionist ruse and it is time for the British government to look beyond the headlines and have a serious rethink.”
*IEA.org.uk
Odds, the IEA (Institute of Economic Affairs) is a right wing lobby group masquerading as a think tank.
It’s funded by a range of libertarian groups including tobacco and fossil interests
It’s extremely powerful, you will see people working for it appear on BBC, Sky, ITV, Twitter, RW media.
Liz Truss and Kwarteng are IEA puppets
“The Institute of Economic Affairs (IEA) is a British “free-market” think tank, set up in 1955, which has a history of close collaboration with the tobacco industry”
Institute of Economic Affairs - TobaccoTactics
The Institute of Economic Affairs (IEA) is a British “free-market” think tank, set up in 1955, which has a history of close collaboration with the tobacco industry. It describes its purpose as: “to improve understanding of the fundamental institutions of a free society by analysing and...
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Deep concerns over public health as The BMJ reveals MPs’ links to organisation backed by tobacco industry | BMJ
Tory leadership hopefuls linked to organisation backed by tobacco industry and open critic of public health measures Experts “deeply concerned” over potential threat to public health The BMJ calls for more transparency over funding sources for all think tanks No fewer than 25 serving...
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Cigarettes should be available totally free if you are a right wing supporter like Berty
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