Tony Blair.

[joe-90]

No they can't. It's an urban myth. If you put your lighter on a sausage it won't burn. Dry it out and it'll burn very well.

In Dresden there was a fire storm hot enough to melt lamp posts - but the people didn't get ignited did they? Some will have been totally cremated - but show me a single picture of one that is half burnt.

How many times do your hear of a body being recovered from a house fire? How many times do you hear of a body burning and setting fire to the house?

Do you know absolutely nothing about science?

 

[Belboz]

If you put a lighter on your sausage it won't burn.

 

[wobs]

You simply believe what you want to believe. You question NOTHING. There is a river very close to the camp. Where there is a river you have the water table. Deny science if you like, that's up to you.

But according to you, the area is fine for Christian burial. So are you saying that what religion a person was affects the water table?

The pyres DON'T work for mass cremation. They are are simply scorching the bodies to prevent lice from spreading typhus. Get it into your head - BODIES DON'T BURN. Treblinka was a transit camp. If you can't explain how 900,000 can be brought to the camp on a train without being seen it didn't happen. If you can't explain how 900,000 bodies fit into a swimming pool sized hole it didn't happen.

Still waiting for evidence

If you can't explain how 900,000 bodies could be removed from a mass grave it didn't happen.

Who said 900,000 were? Initially, they were just buried. In August 1942, the mass graves were overflowing, and when a Soviet mass grave was discovered with officer's bodies intact elswehere in the war, the Nazi's decided to dig up as many bodies as they could and burn them to hide their crimes. Along with new bodies, they were burned on pyres. So many of the pyres were a combination of dug up bodies and fresh ones. So they didn't dig up 900,000 bodies at Treblinka.

If you can't see burning pyres in aerial photos it didn't happen.

Wrong. There are limited ariel photos.

If you can't prove where they got the wood from to burn 900,000 bodies it didn't happen.

If only they had some means of transporting fuel for fires to the site. Oh wait, what's that next to the site? Those long straight things made from metal?

And finally, why on earth would they dig up 900,000 bodies from a mass grave that would have taken years to dig? Why? Just tell me why.

See above.

Oh and one last thing, if you are a fan of Time Team you'll know that Roman remains of villas are CLEARLY visible from the air 2000 years after they were built. So why isn't a mass grave visible after 70 years? I'll tell you why - IT NEVER HAPPENED. That silly Colls woman PROVED it didn't happen. She didn't mean to - but she proved it a fake all the same.

The nazis worked to hide the site. I'm not aware of Romans trying to hide a Roman site.
Colls proved it did happen, if you actually read the findings.
And the fact that she admitted the error shows scientific credibility. That's the essence of science: If you find an error, you correct it. Something you cannot do, so you fail to find the truth.

There is a Jewish saying that goes something like:
"If six people say you are ill, it's time to lie down."
Its time for you to lie down.

 

[wobs]

There was ALWAYS an external heat source.

No there isn't. There are plenty of cases where there was no ongoing heat source. It just needs some source of ignition. Tests show that animals wrapped in clothing burn to nothing with just an ignition source. So bodies can burn.

This is true. A single ignition source can course a long slow burn.

 

[wobs]

Unfortunately for the Smithsonian, Colls and Schute, the “Star of David” to which they refer is nothing of the sort.

Firstly, the symbol—a six pointed solid star, with a dot in its center, surrounded by a circle, and with a clear “D” letter to its right, is imprinted on the back of the tile—which means that wherever it would have been placed, the symbol would have been cemented onto the floor, and would not have been visible.

This makes Colls’s claim that the symbol was there to “make people think they were going somewhere safe” complete nonsense.

The terracotta tile excavated by Ivar Schute at the Treblinka camp, and wrongly identified by him, Colls and the Smithsonian as a “Star of David.” The symbol is in fact a brand mark of the 125-year-old old Dziewulski i Lange porcelain factory in Poland.
Furthermore, no “eye-witness” has ever claimed that there were Stars of David “inside a gas chamber” at Treblinka—only that there was a large Star of David over the “front door” of the gas chamber.

But, even worse for Colls, Schute, and the Smithsonian, the symbol which they all claim to be a “Star of David” is nothing of the sort.

It is in fact a brand mark of the 125-year old Dziewulski i Lange porcelain factory in Poland. That factory still exists, although it was renamed the Opoczno Terracotta Products Factory in 1950 and is today just called Opoczno S.A.

The company’s symbol is known in the heraldic world as a pierced mullet star, as is not unusual for porcelain marks and coats of arms around Europe.


http://newobserveronline.com/smiths...of-david-tiles-shown-to-be-not-jewish-at-all/

Please explain how any of this disproves anything. The tiles were used in at least one of the gas chambers:
"As explained by forensic archaeologist Caroline Sturdy Colls, the new evidence was important because the second gas chambers built at Treblinka were housed in the only brick building in the camp; this provides the first physical evidence for their existence. In his memoir describing his stay in the camp, survivor Jankiel Wiernik says that the floor in the gas chambers (which he helped build) was made of similar tiles.[216]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treblinka_extermination_camp
The findings are close to what appears according to eyewitnesses.

http://www.zchor.org/treblink/wiernik.htm

 

[jeds]

The contemporary records still can't be answered. Even if every eye witness account is wrong and all the photographs and film reels that we can all see with out very own eyes are doctored and wrong it still doesn't remove the fact that contemporary records show that millions of people were killed and disposed of by various means. It matters not if half of them died of starvation, overwork, typhus or other diseases, they were taken against their will, locked up in dreadful conditions and died as a result. Others were shot, beaten to death or murdered in half a dozen other ways. The people who wrote those records and reports had no reason to make anything up and they were not influenced by history. It is just unwitting testimony of the events and situation of the day. In fact, there's no point waiting for an answer to this because it's obvious to anybody with half a brain that there isn't an answer to give.

 

[joe-90]

Anyone with half a brain would look at the world almanac figures. There were many witnesses to people being steamed to death and their body fat turned into soap, and their skin into lampshades. I guess you believe all that cobblers too? BTW, how does one die of 'overwork'?

 

[Deleted member 63160]

BTW, how does one die of 'overwork'?

Google it. 1600 die every day in China alone, of overwork. Did you not know about that?

 

[jockscott]

I don't think Joe knows the meaning of work, far less overwork.

 

[joe-90]

Sturdy-Colls has done more to disprove the holocaust than anyone else. She commissioned an aerial laser scan to look for ground disturbances. She located the Christian cemetery where she started digging - and guess what - she found bones which she said was proof of a gas chamber. FFS what did she expect to find in a cemetery? However, the main thing she did was to prove that no mass grave had ever been dug. Even today there are ground works clearly visible from the Bronze Age, Iron Age, Roman Britain etc. You cannot hide archeology. You cannot turn a large hole back into virgin soil. It simply cannot be done. So how big was this hole? If it was the size of a swimming pool then it simply wasn't possible to fill it with 900,000 bodies. (some say up to 3 million). If it was big enough to hold 900,000 bodies - then how big was it? How was it dug? Why was it dug? What happened to all the spoil that came out of it? Why does it not appear on aerial photos? How could 900,000, year old bodies, be dug up by hand and carried to some imaginary pyre? Why did these pyres not show up on aerial photos of the day? How did all those 900,000 people get to Treblinka by train when you would need literally thousands of trains and multiple lines? Why didn't they show up on aerial pictures? Where are they today? In what time period were these bodies dug up and burned? About a month? So you are telling me that 29,000 bodies were dug up and burned every day of the week? We couldn't do it today. We couldn't do anywhere NEAR that today. Occam's Razor agrees with me - it simply didn't happen.

As for the Germans digging up 900,000 bodies, burning them and filling the hole back up with ash to hide their heinous deeds - it's just plain stoopid, man. Even you, despite your brain washing, must see that much.

 

[joe-90]

I don't think Joe knows the meaning of work, far less overwork.

He's up before you every morning.

 

[joe-90]

BTW, how does one die of 'overwork'?

Google it. 1600 die every day in China alone, of overwork. Did you not know about that?

Stress is a killer - but it takes about 30 years. Google it.

 

[Deleted member 63160]

BTW, how does one die of 'overwork'?

Google it. 1600 die every day in China alone, of overwork. Did you not know about that?

Stress is a killer - but it takes about 30 years. Google it.

Do you have a special selective google? It can take only days. Did you not know that?

 

[joe-90]

So what did they die of? Did it say 'overwork' on their death certificate?

 

[noseall]

Anyone with half a brain would look at the world almanac figures.

....however, those with a whole brain....