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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:55 am Reply with quote

alumni wrote:
denso13 wrote:
lee2009 wrote:
alarm link me up to these regs if you can, and others concerning alarms


I can maybe help there Lee, if you want. PM me.

Naughty naughty.
Breach of copyright?


Ever so slightly.

BSI might take a dim view here.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:11 am Reply with quote

alumni wrote:
Breach of copyright?


No.

Alarm wrote:
Ever so slightly.

BSI might take a dim view here.


Why would that be then, given that you know nothing about me.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:19 am Reply with quote

The regs are copyright.
You buy a copy with certain restrictions.
One being not passing them on or reprinting.
There are exceptions but here does not apply.



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3. Under no circumstances is the Licensee permitted to reproduce all or part of any British Standard contained in the British Standards Online Service for external use or for use on any other site or group of sites, except as defined in 1 or 2 above.


Once again you show the ethos of many here, which is F*** the regs. Do as you want.
Either that or you cannot or did not read the agreement of you actually did buy the regs in the first place.


But your reply shows you also have a misunderstanding of the written word anyway.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:23 am Reply with quote

Alarm wrote:
Nonsense as usual


Completely wrong in my situation, have another go.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:24 am Reply with quote

Mr Judgypants is crotchety again.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:24 am Reply with quote

I like the misquote.
Really its wonderful.

You could have at least been witty.

3. Under no circumstances is the Licensee permitted to reproduce all or part of any British Standard contained in the British Standards Online Service for external use or for use on any other site or group of sites, except as defined in 1 or 2 above.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:25 am Reply with quote

But i can see the comedy is early today, so you lot carry on.

I`ll be having fun, cya later.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:27 am Reply with quote

Mr Judgypants wrote:
More stuff which is irrelevant


All perfectly above board, make no mistake.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:28 pm Reply with quote

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When using a confirmation detector such as the Pyronix TMD15, the
BS8243 clause 5.4.3 states that it should be declared at installation.
This would typically be with the URN application.



Deal with it.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:48 pm Reply with quote

re the regs, i thought however wrong i was, that these regs would be available foc on a website, with the option to purhcase a hard copy or a pdf version.

if the regs are to be obeyed, then i belive they should be made available free of charge on a website, however right or wrong that may sound.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:57 pm Reply with quote

lee2009 wrote:
if the regs are to be obeyed


Just remember though, BS's and codes of practice are not the law. From the BSI website "Standards are designed for voluntary use and do not impose any regulations." The standards demonstrate ways of complying with laws and regulations, but they are not the only way.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 1:01 pm Reply with quote

Lee, you might find that "regulations" apply, not to the general public doing DIY work on their own homes, but by people wishing to conform to the rules of an organisation to which they choose to belong, in order to qualify for the benefits of being members of that organisation.

For example, you might choose to join an organisation which gave you a fastrack to Planning Permission approvals, and it might be a rule of that organisation that under some circumstances you were required to roll up one trouser leg.

No person choosing not to join your organisation would have any obligation to roll up his trouser leg. If the fancy took him, he might, or might not, choose to do it voluntarily, but there would be no compulsion on him, and no penalty for not doing it.

Some of the things Alarm people like to call Regulations are like that. Look out for them trying it on.

Of course, if someone can show you a Law requiring you to roll up your trouser leg, or follow some other requirement, then you would have an obligation to follow it.



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 1:04 pm Reply with quote

cheers lads, yes i understand they dont apply to diy, they were just something i wanted to read over in my spare time.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 1:05 pm Reply with quote

so i could say, that buying a hard copy of these voluntary regs, is simply a money making exercise?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 1:09 pm Reply with quote

For example here
Alarm wrote:
The regs are copyright.

the words imply that he is talking about regulations you are obliged to follow, but the context shows that he is talking about British Standards, which are not regulations.

If you want to read some BS documents, ask at your local library. You've already paid through your Council Tax.
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