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thintony

Joined: 31 Mar 2012 Posts: 6 Location: Gloucestershire, United Kingdom
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Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 5:17 pm |
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I am replacing 2 wall lights and 2 ceiling lights in my new house. I have found that in three of the four lights a cable block was in the back of the light mounting wrapped in electrical tape (the other is a ceiling rose). I have been doing a bit of research to find out whether or not tape is a suitable way of protecting a cable block. The instructions for the new lights suggest they are but a bit of research on the internet suggests that the chocboxes are a better idea as they act as a layer of insulation in their own right.
The problem I have is that in none of the lights I have will a choc box fit inside the light fitting. I presume the only way around this is to make the hole where the cable comes through larger and hide a box in the cavity. So is a cable block and tape satisfactory (I guess it must have been 15 years ago when the wiring was done)? If not do I have to make a hole in the wall or is there a mini chocbox I can use? |
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Iggifer

Joined: 08 Sep 2011 Posts: 874 Location: Warwickshire, United Kingdom Thanked: 92 times
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Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 5:30 pm |
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presumably at the connector blocks you have 4 terminals and not just 3?
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17thman

Joined: 29 Jun 2008 Posts: 821 Location: West Midlands, United Kingdom Thanked: 44 times
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Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 5:33 pm |
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do you have any nice photos? |
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17thman

Joined: 29 Jun 2008 Posts: 821 Location: West Midlands, United Kingdom Thanked: 44 times
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Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 5:45 pm |
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as long as the connector blocks are within the accessory and the outersheath of the cables entering the accessory/emerging from plaster or ceiling is still intact as they enter, then that is acceptable. your ceiling rose should accomodate this. Some wall light fittings, if they have a switched live are difficult to terminate in a small space. You can split the connectors into individuals to help find space and/or knock a small bit of wall/plaster out behind the fitting. |
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PrenticeBoyofDerry

Joined: 30 Jun 2009 Posts: 13600 Location: Londonderry, United Kingdom Thanked: 1174 times
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 7:47 am |
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It is not satisfactory to either hide joints within walls or insulate terminal connection blocks.
If the cable lengths are long enough they should enter the accessory/fitting, where they can be then placed in a terminal connection block and no need to tape or choc within accessory.
If the only option is for the joints to be within wall or floor, the best method would be by use of a MF junction |
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thintony

Joined: 31 Mar 2012 Posts: 6 Location: Gloucestershire, United Kingdom
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 8:53 am |
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Thanks for your replies. My plan A is definitely to fit the connection in the light mounting and the cables are long enough. There just isn't space for anything more protective than the screw cable block provided with the light. If that is ok then there isn't really a problem. |
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bowlingo

Joined: 31 Dec 2005 Posts: 89 Location: United Kingdom Thanked: 1 time
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 9:54 am |
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Any chance of a picture? |
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OwainDIYer

Joined: 05 May 2010 Posts: 2056 Location: Stirlingshire, United Kingdom Thanked: 271 times
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 10:40 am |
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PrenticeBoyofDerry

Joined: 30 Jun 2009 Posts: 13600 Location: Londonderry, United Kingdom Thanked: 1174 times
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 12:41 pm |
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| thintony wrote: | | Thanks for your replies. My plan A is definitely to fit the connection in the light mounting and the cables are long enough. There just isn't space for anything more protective than the screw cable block provided with the light. If that is ok then there isn't really a problem. |
A connection block within the fitting, without the use of a choc box, is acceptable. |
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