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crooner

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PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 6:35 pm Reply with quote

Hi, i want to fit down lights downstairs in kitchen ceiling, i have a 13 amp socket that will never be used as it is jammed behind a kitchen unit,i can get access to the cable's from the back quite easily,and fit connection unit higher up the wall for access, so can i change 13amp socket to a 13amp connection unit,then run a 1.5 cable to lights,
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PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 6:54 pm Reply with quote

I dont see why not, presuming its a switched fused connection unit your going to be fitting.
Will you be burying the cables, do you know if you have RCD protection on said circuit?
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PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 7:32 pm Reply with quote

bigjon, yes it is a switched fuse unit, i'm not sure if i have RCD protection the fuse box have switches,the cables run down to a 13 amp socket i was going to cut these cables and run to the fused connection unit,
from what i have read on this site this is okay if the fused connection unit was a spur, but i was unsure because it would be on the ring circuit as i cant get access to front of 13 amp socket, i can only get into the cables that go into the back of socket
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PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 8:53 pm Reply with quote

would these downlights be 230 volt or 12 volt type ?
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PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2010 12:15 am Reply with quote

Hi spark1, i was thinking of putting in 230volt they will go into plaster board ceiling which i will be getting plastered,(no more than 2 50 watt's plenty of room in ceiling,by the way i have decided to put a 13 amp socket above the one i cant access & just run a fused connection unit to lights,can you advise me on lights they are not for show,someone in the family is visually impaired
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PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2010 6:27 am Reply with quote

The 13 amp socket should not be jammed behind a kitchen unit, they should be easily accessesible. So if at any time they did need to be inspected and tested this could be done.
I suggest the socket is moved, so it is accessible.
A fused connection unit can be installed to this, you could use a switched FCU as this can then be used as a functional switch, if not you would need to then drop a switch cable down to operate the lights. The FCU would need to be down fused to a suitable rating.
When fitting downlights you must ensure that you have adequate ventilation around the fitting and that their use does not breech any fire regulations.
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PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2010 11:39 am Reply with quote

What seems to have been missed so far is that you cannot use a 13A fuse on the lighting circuit. You will have to fit a 3A fuse in the FCU in order to comply with regs.
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PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2010 12:10 pm Reply with quote

wingcoax wrote:
What seems to have been missed so far is that you cannot use a 13A fuse on the lighting circuit. You will have to fit a 3A fuse in the FCU in order to comply with regs.
PrenticeBoyofDerry wrote:
The FCU would need to be down fused to a suitable rating.
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PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2010 12:17 pm Reply with quote

PrenticeBoyofDerry wrote:
The FCU would need to be down fused to a suitable rating.
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