Easy Surface Primer (ESP)...

[Sharpey]

...has anyone got any experience with this?

It is meant to prime shiny surfaces for painting so that the paint will stick (like tiles, or already glossed surfaces).

I have also read about International Wipe on Surface primer.....

Can anyone speak for their efficiency?

Thanks alot.

 

[LJW61]

You want a cant beat a good old fashioned rub-down & undercoat on gloss .
ESP etc are for lazy 'quick-tosh-grab-the-money-and-run'cowboys
If you really cant face the preparation & the gloss is in VERY sound condition wipe it down with cellulose thinners first - it has the same effect of de-greasing & slightly 'etching' the surface for a coast of 'one-coat' TRADE gloss

 

[Sharpey]

Thanks alot for the reply....

You're right, the truth is I cannot be bothered as this was supposed to be a quick, small job and has turned into something else....I still might give it a go as some people have had success with it but we'll see....

I understand it's just a light sand that is required, no? I don't need to actually remove the old paint? I might just whip out the electric sander and give it a quick once over....

Thanks.

 

[opps]

Have never used ESP but I do use some of the other products in the Owatrol range- a good brand.

Be careful when sanding the gloss- I have found too often that the paint just peels off. A real pain in the a*se.

God only knows what the previous painters had used

 

[LJW61]

As opps says, carefull sanding because the previous painter may have skimped on the prep before glossing!
Gloss on gloss a no-no

 

[Sharpey]

OK, cheers guys. I have tried a little sanding and there is no hint of peeling or anything, seems tightly bonded so it should be OK.

I'm going to give the Easy Sander/ESP stuff a miss.

Thanks again.

 

[opps]

As opps says, carefull sanding because the previous painter may have skimped on the prep before glossing!
Gloss on gloss a no-no

Ahh... so is that the main reason for gloss peeling/ripping when sanding.

I do double gloss DT Weathershield and have sanded it 10 years later with no problems but then I guess the 2 gloss over the 2 U/C are applied before any of the paints have fully cured.

 

[LJW61]

Thats it, if you can get the second coat of gloss on within a day or two of the previous one it will chemically bond with the first (sometimes a tad longer for Weathersheild as it cures slower than internal gloss)

 

[opps]

Thats it, if you can get the second coat of gloss on within a day or two of the previous one it will chemically bond with the first (sometimes a tad longer for Weathersheild as it cures slower than internal gloss)

Thanks for reaffirming what I had assumed to be the case